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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I was responding to ForteNightshade and trying to fully understand the presented idea.
    Then sorry for responding for him/her, but this is public space. Idea was well said, seemed that you were just confused with some pointless details like replicas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Then take a longer break.....
    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    This is a problem of player expectations and perception - not a problem with the game itself. Expecting to be entertained with new content at all times from a game (console, MMO, etc) is not reasonable.
    These breaks will have to be ~2 months at a time. 6.X0 release, play for a week -> don't play for next 2 months -> 6.X5 releases, play for a week -> don't play for a next 2 months. You didn't feel like playing at 6.25/6.35 release? Too bad, V&C/EO is now dead, maybe show up on time next time.

    Nobody expects to be entertained 24/7. But having at least 3 months of content per year seems very reasonable for subscription-based MMORPG, made by one of the largest gaming corpo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Then sorry for responding for him/her, but this is public space. Idea was well said, seemed that you were just confused with some pointless details like replicas.
    I'm sorry my questions seem pointless to you.





    These breaks will have to be ~2 months at a time. 6.X0 release, play for a week -> don't play for next 2 months -> 6.X5 releases, play for a week -> don't play for a next 2 months. You didn't feel like playing at 6.25/6.35 release? Too bad, V&C/EO is now dead, maybe show up on time next time.

    Nobody expects to be entertained 24/7. But having at least 3 months of content per year seems very reasonable for subscription-based MMORPG, made by one of the largest gaming corpo.
    Again "take a break" is not a defense of the company. If you're not having fun with the product, why keep paying for it? If you're not getting what you want out of it, why financially support content/release decisions that upset you? Also for context, when I take a break from this game, it's usually 6+ months at a time. When I return, I play till I've run out of new stuff to do then put my account back on hibernation. I never expect this game to hold my attention for a full expansion's lifespan. How could it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Again "take a break" is not a defense of the company. If you're not having fun with the product, why keep paying for it? If you're not getting what you want out of it, why financially support content/release decisions that upset you? Also for context, when I take a break from this game, it's usually 6+ months at a time. When I return, I play till I've run out of new stuff to do then put my account back on hibernation. I never expect this game to hold my attention for a full expansion's lifespan. How could it?
    I don't want to lose my house, that's the first thing. Secondly, I don't get why are people getting impressions that people that are unhappy with EW's low standards hate the game. I love the game, I still play it, have fun and find some old stuff to do, it's just that doing old content gets old pretty fast. Nobody is demanding 24/7 content like many people suggests, we're just pointing out that EW has been pretty lackluster when it comes to endgame content compared to past expansions. Saying "take a break" is nothing but attempt to sweep the problems under the rug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    I don't want to lose my house, that's the first thing. Secondly, I don't get why are people getting impressions that people that are unhappy with EW's low standards hate the game. I love the game, I still play it, have fun and find some old stuff to do, it's just that doing old content gets old pretty fast. Nobody is demanding 24/7 content like many people suggests, we're just pointing out that EW has been pretty lackluster when it comes to endgame content compared to past expansions. Saying "take a break" is nothing but attempt to sweep the problems under the rug.
    So projection then? Instead of actually trying to understand the advice given you're just pushing whatever reasoning you come up with onto the person giving the advice. Great. Nice to know that everyone has been explicitly taking the absolute worst interpretation of my words this whole time even after explaining multiple times exactly what I meant. What an extremely rude thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    So projection then? Instead of actually trying to understand the advice given you're just pushing whatever reasoning you come up with onto the person giving the advice.
    Your advice is effectively quitting the game I love. What an advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Nice to know that everyone has been explicitly taking the absolute worst interpretation of my words this whole time even after explaining multiple times exactly what I meant. What an extremely rude thing to do
    I feel exact same way about you. I keep telling you that problem is cadence and longevity of content we get now compared to past, yet your responses are that we shouldn't even strife for better game, but instead we should accept mediocrity and play the game for month, and then go play something else for the rest of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    If this becomes the most successful relic in terms of participation then they will consider it a success. Not because it was extremely easy.
    Reminds me when OW devs said that one broken hero isn't OP because it had 50% winrate, completely missing the fact that said hero was always picked, so both teams had one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Your advice is effectively quitting the game I love. What an advice.



    I feel exact same way about you. I keep telling you that problem is cadence and longevity of content we get now compared to past, yet your responses are that we shouldn't even strife for better game, but instead we should accept mediocrity and play the game for month, and then go play something else for the rest of the year.



    Reminds me when OW devs said that one broken hero isn't OP because it had 50% winrate, completely missing the fact that said hero was always picked, so both teams had one.
    "If they did X X and X and maybe X the game could improve, here's a few suggestions for it to improve

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    "just unsubscribe if you dont like it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post

    Again "take a break" is not a defense of the company.
    People repeatedly told you, they dont want to take such a long breaks from a game they loved. You repeating that sentence over and over again, is basically "Just be happy" to a depressed person before suicide. A lot of people will not come back after a months of break and then still having nothing to do. They will leave for good. If you dont understand people's feelings, maybe you should not continue engaging in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    People repeatedly told you, they dont want to take such a long breaks from a game they loved. You repeating that sentence over and over again, is basically "Just be happy" to a depressed person before suicide. A lot of people will not come back after a months of break and then still having nothing to do. They will leave for good. If you dont understand people's feelings, maybe you should not continue engaging in this thread.
    Pretty tasteless comparison honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Pretty tasteless comparison honestly.
    woosh the point over your head
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    woosh the point over your head
    Yea bro, telling someone to unsub from a game is just like telling a suicidal person to be happy. Not a completely deranged comparison at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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