Thread: Relic News - 6.45

Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Both but odds are I'd end up glamming over the relic at some point anyway so more towards the latter.

(I know this wasn't directed at me but answering anyway because why not)

Yea of course, anyone can answer because it's going to be a subjective thing. If you just want a grind to do, anyone can come up with a list of stuff for you to chew through (I'd be willing to create one).

Originally Posted by Xirean

When did I say something about people not being allowed to complain? Submit all the feedback you want. But if you're going to post on a public forum, don't be surprised when people respond.

As for the topic of getting new content, we do. Consistently. It might not be at fast pace but we do get new content. All of it might not be of interest to you which is why my go to suggestion is to play what does appeal to you then when you get bored, take a break. I have no interest in pvp, savage, or ultimates. If one was released that suddenly did appeal to me then I'd be happy and play it, otherwise I ignore it. I'm genuinely not sure of the issue here.

The non-PvP, Savage and Ultimate content we've gotten thus far has been extremely milquetoast and lukewarm at best. Say what you will about Bozja and Eureka, and maybe they're no longer kicking around now as much as they were back then but even still they lasted longer than the likes of Criterion and Variant Dungeons have thus far. Just like those two, once you're finished with Eureka Orthos you're literally done with it. This is what people are criticizing, not the amount of content but the longevity of it.

I can only speak for myself of course, but I understand where some other posters' irritation is coming from. Personally? I don't want to unsub and take a break, I want more to do. The usual advice of forumgoers around here is extremely unhelpful at best, I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by Saraide

Yea of course, anyone can answer because it's going to be a subjective thing. If you just want a grind to do, anyone can come up with a list of stuff for you to chew through (I'd be willing to create one).

I preferred Bozja and Eureka because they came with a story. I'd already experienced Hildibrand, so these relics offer precious little in comparison to Bozja and Eureka insofar as story is concerned. Also, there were cool mounts and glams attached to those zones like Proto-Ozma and the Law's Order sets. Part of the appeal of acquiring those glams and mounts was that I actually had to work towards it as well, finally getting that rad glam I wished for felt like an actual achievement. Not to mention Auracite lore and the Queen was really cool imo.

So, at least for me, I'd very much prefer an irritating grind for Relics due to all the extra bells and whistles that came with. The journey is worth the destination to me, Endwalker's content so far has not managed to capture that same mystique in that regard.

I feel like a lot of players forget that the change in Relic acquisition affects casuals and midcore players just as much as it does the more involved raiders. I'm not a raider, and yet I still developed a fondness for Bozja/CLL/DR and the Eureka zones.

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

And this is why I treat these things as a business relationship rather than an emotional one. The fact of the matter is we're getting less compared to what we used to - in terms of quality and quantity of things that are actually viable as content.

This relic is unacceptable and an utterly failed experiment. The people who are unironically in support of it or are even demanding the tome requirements be lessened further already had tome weapons they could obtain. There was no need to sacrifice the actual Relic for these people to give them something they were not interested in working towards.

But those current tome weapons require at minimum 3 weeks of tome grinding (due to 450 weekly cap) + 7 weeks of weekly 8 person raids (reduced to 4 later in the patch cycle), so lets not pretend they're as easy as the 2nd tier tome relics

My point: They're not entirely comparable.

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

And this is why I treat these things as a business relationship rather than an emotional one. The fact of the matter is we're getting less compared to what we used to - in terms of quality and quantity of things that are actually viable as content.

This relic is unacceptable and an utterly failed experiment. The people who are unironically in support of it or are even demanding the tome requirements be lessened further already had tome weapons they could obtain. There was no need to sacrifice the actual Relic for these people to give them something they were not interested in working towards.

Savage weapons are already better than relics before relics can catch up to that stage, and are better for 80% of the expansion, and are only better at the end with mariginal substat increase

relics never really mattered outside glam , and with how garbage and tedious it is to gear alt classes as is, thats all relics ever really needed to be, filler.