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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by TowaIsBestGirl View Post
    While I'm not accusing you in particular of this, I often find that those who espouse such views as "Well of course I have hangups with and things I don't like about <insert game here>" rarely have anything critical to say or offer potential improvements to show for it or prove the veracity of their words. Something to keep in mind.

    I sometimes think Yoshi-P didn't think his words of "taking a break" through when he said them, and those listening took it as gospel or one of the commandments rather than a recommendation. What of those who'd rather not take a break? It's far from a miraculous silver bullet to solve all issues. I feel like some here are less sympathetic to those who find themselves in that position than they ought to be, and what words they do offer tend to be platitudes.
    Even if you arnt pointing at ME specifically, I think this is Short-sighted. Because I have said my Grievances about the game, and have participated in many discussions.
    Seems like if you dont match the energy and Completely 100% agree with everyone else, then your opinion matters less if at all, or your just some Shill or YoshiP defender.
    Half the time I dont think people really understand what is being said if it doesnt just Parrot exactly what they feel, which I dont think is fair in an open forum, all sides should be heard equally, not just the loudest ones, or the ones that spit venom.

    I have always advocated to speak your mind and give criticism. But dont think its healthy to constantly be mad, then continue to stick around and keep giving money.
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    I like the lack of a long grind. Instead of spending all of my very limited free time stuck playing this to take ages to get a relic, I can instead spend my time playing games I haven't yet.

    Undertale, Persona 5 Strikers, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, The Witcher, and many more. Not being chained to one game is a very good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I like the lack of a long grind. Instead of spending all of my very limited free time stuck playing this to take ages to get a relic, I can instead spend my time playing games I haven't yet.

    Undertale, Persona 5 Strikers, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, The Witcher, and many more. Not being chained to one game is a very good thing.
    Not having a relic day 1 doesnt mean you are chained to the game. But sure, pay a monthly sub just to play other games instead. Do you fanboys even read what you write? Every normal person would realize how insane you guys sound.
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    All-good Namesaregone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Not having a relic day 1 doesnt mean you are chained to the game. But sure, pay a monthly sub just to play other games instead. Do you fanboys even read what you write? Every normal person would realize how insane you guys sound.
    I pay an FFXIV sub, an Xbox Live sub, a Playstation Sub, a Nintendo Switch sub. That doesn't include any additional subs for induvial games or other services. Can't utilize all those subs if I'm playing a single game. I get your point but using a subscription as a basis doesn't really work for the point you are trying to make.
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    Thea Shinri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I like the lack of a long grind. Instead of spending all of my very limited free time stuck playing this to take ages to get a relic, I can instead spend my time playing games I haven't yet.

    Undertale, Persona 5 Strikers, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, The Witcher, and many more. Not being chained to one game is a very good thing.
    Chained to what? Making sure your glorified glamour weapon is up to date for your own made up arbitrary reasons? Relic and savage gearing are separated. If you don't raid, you won't need those few extra ilvls relic provides compared to regular tome weapon. If you do raid, you will have better weapon before next relic step releases. And you don't need either of that, savage is clearable at min ilvl, which right now is 20-30 ilvls lower than current relic. You really don't need relic, stop acting like it's something mandatory. If you don't like it, don't do it, just like I won't do (aka buy) more than 1 or 2 EW relics for my mains, since AST tomes are better spent elsewhere.

    And by EW relics I mean combat relics, I'm going to get all crafter and gatherer ones, those are actually entertaining.
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    Knowing SE they'll overcompensate next expension and tie the 7.x relic to some form of battlepass like they have in Fortnite, that should be grindy enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Not having a relic day 1 doesnt mean you are chained to the game. But sure, pay a monthly sub just to play other games instead. Do you fanboys even read what you write? Every normal person would realize how insane you guys sound.
    It's hard to believe that person wasn't being sarcastic. It's really insane to me even though I'm casual AF.
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    And this is why I treat these things as a business relationship rather than an emotional one. The fact of the matter is we're getting less compared to what we used to - in terms of quality and quantity of things that are actually viable as content.

    This relic is unacceptable and an utterly failed experiment. The people who are unironically in support of it or are even demanding the tome requirements be lessened further already had tome weapons they could obtain. There was no need to sacrifice the actual Relic for these people to give them something they were not interested in working towards.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    And this is why I treat these things as a business relationship rather than an emotional one. The fact of the matter is we're getting less compared to what we used to - in terms of quality and quantity of things that are actually viable as content.

    This relic is unacceptable and an utterly failed experiment. The people who are unironically in support of it or are even demanding the tome requirements be lessened further already had tome weapons they could obtain. There was no need to sacrifice the actual Relic for these people to give them something they were not interested in working towards.
    What matters to you with relics more: how they look or how grindy they are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    What matters to you with relics more: how they look or how grindy they are?
    Both but odds are I'd end up glamming over the relic at some point anyway so more towards the latter.

    (I know this wasn't directed at me but answering anyway because why not)
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