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    Relic News - 6.45

    Mandaville Weapon progression in 6.45 will most likely remain the same
    In the interview with YoshiP on 6.4 from GameWatch/Famitsu/4Gamer/DengekiOnline:

    Q: Mandaville Weapon has progressed in the form of consuming Allagan tomestones and exchanging necessary items in both stages so far, but will patch 6.45 follow the same flow? Or will it be a new process?

    Yoshi: I don't really want to say "This is what needs to be collected" before the implementation, so let me refrain from talking about it (laughs). However, in terms of the flow, the intention this time is for players to be able to upgrade (the weapon) while playing various contents at the same time, so please be assured that there will be no major changes.

    https://dengekionline.com/articles/183539/

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    ――マンダヴィルウェポンはこれまでの2段階において、いずれもアラガントームストーン:天文を消費して必要アイテムを交換、という形で進んできましたが、パッチ6.45でも同様の流れになるのでしょうか。それとも新たな過程となるのでしょうか。

    吉田さすがに実装前に「集めるものはこれです」とは言いたくないので、こちらはちょっと控えさせてください(笑) ただ、流れとしてもそうですし、今回のシリーズでは「色々なコンテンツを遊んでいるうちに強化も並行できる」が意図になるため、大きく変わることはありませんので、その点はご安心ください。
    Well. So much for "6.45's relic step will be the real grind!" congrats to those who'd rather farm tomestones instead of having actual relic content like Delubrum Reginae or Exploratory Zones that gave other rewards to grind for and things to do.

    It's clear to me that those of us who wanted a more involved process are not simply not being listened to, but actively ignored.

    Enjoy your Manderville Relics - if they can even be called relics at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Well. So much for "6.45's relic step will be the real grind!" congrats to those who'd rather farm tomestones instead of having actual relic content like Delubrum Reginae or Exploratory Zones that gave other rewards to grind for and things to do.

    It's clear to me that those of us who wanted a more involved process are not simply not being listened to, but actively ignored.

    Enjoy your Manderville Relics - if they can even be called relics at this point.
    So much for all the white knights saying "it's only the 1st step guys !!" "it's only the 2nd step guys !!"

    a la wow

    "it's only alpha guys"
    "its only beta guys"
    "its only release guys"
    "its only x.5 guys"
    etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So much for all the white knights saying "it's only the 1st step guys !!" "it's only the 2nd step guys !!"

    a la wow

    "it's only alpha guys"
    "its only beta guys"
    "its only release guys"
    "its only x.5 guys"
    etc
    Indeed. Well it's good that me and everyone else who saw where this was going are going to be validated in our observations soon enough. But I would have liked for this game to actually provide stuff to do and - grind for - since that's what the relic was supposed to be. Not a free handout.

    I guess this new system is more convenient for the people who call themselves role players to get a free weapon and then go back to their venues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So much for all the white knights saying "it's only the 1st step guys !!" "it's only the 2nd step guys !!"

    a la wow

    "it's only alpha guys"
    "its only beta guys"
    "its only release guys"
    "its only x.5 guys"
    etc
    This was never my take, but I still just don't care. Such a massive time sink for what is essentially glamour isn't the best use of my time in game, nor is it any fun. I always think of light farming with the zodiac and atma weapons as some of the worst requirements ever conceived to progress a relic weapon.

    I'd much rather target primal weapons, and find they would be a better alternate BiS weapon to obtain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    This was never my take, but I still just don't care. Such a massive time sink for what is essentially glamour isn't the best use of my time in game, nor is it any fun. I always think of light farming with the zodiac and atma weapons as some of the worst requirements ever conceived to progress a relic weapon.

    I'd much rather target primal weapons, and find they would be a better alternate BiS weapon to obtain.
    Didn't you just make a fictional grind for no reason not too long ago just because you didn't have anything to do? How is a relic not better than that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Didn't you just make a fictional grind for no reason not too long ago just because you didn't have anything to do? How is a relic not better than that?
    That grind was for ilv620 crafter and gatherer gear, which will last well into next expansion. The relic weapons for combat classes aren't even BiS and inferior to savage weapons. You can't even customize the stats on them anymore. Like I said previously, they are glamour. That's it.

    I really can't believe I have to spell that out for you.

    Also. I did that grind not because I didn't have anything to do. At that point I still needed Sophia Unreal and Rubicante EX clears. I still haven't touched Island Sanctuary or Hildabrand either. Also fell behind on shared fates for EW zones. I did that grind simply because I felt like it.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 05-02-2023 at 05:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    You can't even customize the stats on them anymore.
    Of all complaints about the relics, this one really doesn't track, Eureka weapons became customizable at the Pyros stage which was at the end of the 3rd zone out of 4, Resistance weapons at the Augmented Law's Order stage which was the second to last stage, no relic ever had customizable stats at their second stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I still haven't touched Island Sanctuary or Hildabrand either. Also fell behind on shared fates for EW zones.
    Well don't rush any of this because you'll run out of stuff to do in a day tops. GL tho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    "it's only alpha guys"
    "its only beta guys"
    "its only release guys"
    "its only x.5 guys"
    etc


    "They won't remember in next expansion anyway."



    /uj

    I wish the manderville weapons were the ones that players submitted instead of this "theme" that I don't know where it fits. What decides if they have blue glow or red glow? They don't feel like Manderville relics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post

    Enjoy your Manderville Relics
    Thanks Aveyond, that's kind of you.
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