SCH Thoughts…

[SweetPete]

So in patch 6.4 we are getting fairy glams. We will be able to glam to either Eos, Selene or Carbuncle. Sooo this has me worried about 7.0 SCH.

Does this mean sch will likely get the smn treatment and basically using whispering dawn will make Eos/Selene appear and use it then disappear? I mean the pet system has never been very reliable anyway. They improve it little by little every expansion but it’s still janky.

I honestly thought we’d get pixies or even Feo but carbuncle? Just strange.

Thoughts?

[UkcsAlias]

For the fairy glams, ill just see whatever it is on release. It cant make it worse than it is now as it gives more freedom, and maybe later on we will get some very nice options to go for. I have played SCH this much i barely notice the fairy even being there, so even if i give it a static place, i dont actively notice the fairy being there. Its just autopilot for me on that part.

To me the only fairy command i am missing is that it can follow a specific target (both teammate or enemy). Especialy making it able to chase the tank or boss can be very convenient. And while it might make the other commands even more obsolete, this is a QoL feature that i would consider worth it.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Quite possibly.

Funnily enough, I also wouldn’t be surprised either if changes along like the following happens sometime in the future (hidden because I think they’re cursed changes lmao):

• All Fairy & Seraph AoE abilities (WD, FI, FB) becomes centered on the SCH.
• Fairy exist solely to cast Embrace & Fey Union, and to accumulate Fey Gauge.
• Embrace & Fey Union reach is increased, matching one another.
• Sacred Soil is no longer a ground targeting action.

All of that would definitely kill one of the advantages & last few bits of difference of bringing SCH over SGE.

[Osmond]

It's possible that it could happen, but more than likely not going to happen. It'll just be another adjustment to make the fairy responsive, potency nerfs with embrace, whispering dawn, blessing, etc. It's pretty much SCH's identity for the fairy to do what it does out in the field, placing the fairy, etc. For the SMN though, this is what ppl actually wanted. To actually summon an eikon...despite losing it's identity as a DoT user. So it's best not to jump to quickly and wait to see what they'll say in the fan festivals...

[fulminating]

You're not really summoning an eikon though, it's just fire 4 with extra steps. It feels much less like summoning than when the pet did actions because you told it to and pretended to contribute with auto attacks rather than just hanging around like a bad smell.

I really hope they don't do the same to scholar.

[Osmond]

You're not really summoning an eikon though, it's just fire 4 with extra steps. It feels much less like summoning than when the pet did actions because you told it to and pretended to contribute with auto attacks rather than just hanging around like a bad smell.

I really hope they don't do the same to scholar.

........................ever heard the saying, "This is why we can't have nice things."

[Sebazy]

IMHO it's pretty much impossible to guess what direction SCH will get taken in at the best of times. It's progression over the years has been akin to herding cats and just as unpredictable.

If I had to guess then yeah, Rein's pretty close to what I'd suspect as well. The fairy getting neutered to the point of being a job specific minion, something SE appear to have wanted to do arguably since HW but never quite had the courage up until this point potentially.

Fun fact. In the ARR to HW era, having 2 characters in identical gear, but one at 50, the other at level 60. The level 50's fairy would actually heal for significantly more than the level 60s. I forget the exact difference but it was something like 30%. I'm not sure if it's still true today, but it was a highly amusing find back in the day. There's no denying that the fairy was far too powerful back in ARR, but SE seem to have been deathly afraid of it ever since to the point where EW might be the first expansion I can remember where it didn't eat a substantial nerf stealth or otherwise.

[ForsakenRoe]

SMN would have landed so much better if they had done more like Dissidia Yuna, or more recently FF16. Instead of 'summon Ifrit, fire off 2 very slow, fire elemental Ruins', having it be 'summon Ifrit, he blasts the enemy, fuses with you, now you use a bunch of Ifrit themed attacks while having some aspect of it's form, like Crimson Whatsit (gapcloser) with his claws over your hands'. Ifrit's claws, Titan's massive hands to throw Landslides at the enemy, Garuda's wings allowing you to cast while moving, Leviathan's tail, Shiva's high heels idk

BLU stole a lot of what SMN could have done, I think

[AmiableApkallu]

Funnily enough, I also wouldn’t be surprised either if changes along like the following happens sometime in the future (hidden because I think they’re cursed changes lmao)…

Having read through those changes, I now know true despair.

[Nizzi]

It's very optimistic if you think SE is going to bother redesigning a healer, especially when they've stated that they have no clue what to do with Scholar.
I think the more realistic motivation behind SE finally adding fairy glamour is that they're currently working on new job actions for 7.0 and realized that if they cut the two separate Summon Selene/Summon Eos buttons into one general "Summon Fairy" button, they'd have a free slot on the hotbar without having to cut any heals, much like how they combined Summon Seraph and Consolation going into 6.0. Get rid of Repose too and now they've got two spaces for buttons and can kick the healer can down the road for another 3 years. I sincerely believe there's not any motive in it beyond that. Please enjoy!