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  1. #11
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandso View Post
    Well, I'm not talking about designing a whole job with all their skills and all their potencies, just the general concept of the job: his name, role, weapon, a glam set, a small description and maybe his gauge mechanic.
    Even that in itself wouldn't necessarily entirely matter, nor would it address underlying issues. It would give them ideas, and maybe a core concept with which to frame the job, but what matters ultimately is how well the job actually plays in the sense of how it feels to execute job rotation, how unique and distinct it feels from other jobs, etc.,

    Frankly, whether the core idea would come from one of us, or internally with the team it wouldn't matter since there's still a sort of disconnect with how it is implemented and the potential reception that it gets from the community.

    Not that I disagree with you entirely in principle, as it would be cool, I just think under this set of guidelines you wouldn't necessarily address some of the bigger problems that people have or the core issues with job design in general.
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  2. #12
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    Deo14's Avatar
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    Thea Shinri
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    Raiden
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    NGL for as much as I do complain about job design here, almost anytime I read a person's job design idea it's completely awful
    Eeh, have you heard about this Geomancer job? It's this like, mage, from 30 years old FF game. It can bypass traps and stuff, which is very relevant in this game. It changes skills depending in what terrain you are. Surely it won't be hard to just rework every single duty and every single map to support this mechanic.

    How about Beastmaster? Devs said million times already that pets are nightmare to work with, but both of my braincells are currently used for typing this, so idk.

    How about whip job? You use whip to whip your enemies. I swear it's just cool concept, it's not because I'm into BDSM. Oh boi, I hope those evil modders will not use this to do some naughty stuff, hehe, that would be terrible.

    Inb4 people will come and defend some/all of these jobs
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  3. #13
    Player R041's Avatar
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    Oidi Grey
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    Marilith
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Necromancer, you summon baby lalafels and they cast ankle bite
    Summon me, let's do this.
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  4. #14
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    I'd never want anyone in this playerbase to design a job
    even if we have simple job design 60% of the people who complain about it also complained that
    ARR,HW,SB was too complex.

    so they would end but designing the most derange gameplay you've ever seen just to not even like it.
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  5. #15
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    My proposed job is golfer, and for its LB3 it powerdrives a lalafell into the enemy's face. I will offer no further input and will take no questions.
    I saw golf and my mind immediately went into Spheda from Dark Cloud 2. I had a love/hate relationship with that mini game.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  6. #16
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    uh, how about no.

    we most certainly do not know whats best. and posting new topics several times a day in general forums doesnt qualify you for that.

    game companies let players run games when they have given up on them and have zero ideas and zero direction. its usually right before they pull the plug. the more they let players call the shots, the more the games become an unholy mess that ultimately.. no one wants to play.
    Well actually to be fair there are some good ideas/input from the community...

    However for every 1 example of that you get about 10,000+ of the opposite...


    Edit:

    Oh... I forgot to add a job idea for lulz...

    Drunken Master

    Job skills and abilities are either extremely weak or not usable at all when sober making it the most difficult job in the game to play because SE decided players wouldn't have access to booze in game... >.>
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    Last edited by RitsukoSonoda; 05-01-2023 at 01:31 PM.

  7. #17
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    VeyaAkemi's Avatar
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    Veya Akemi
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    Marilith
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Drunken Master

    Job skills and abilities are either extremely weak or not usable at all when sober making it the most difficult job in the game to play because SE decided players wouldn't have access to booze in game... >.>
    No see, the job is completely unplayable... until you buy the /toast emote from the shop, at which point you need to regularly use /toast to upkeep a drunk job gauge, you also have a hungover gauge, which needs to be balanced out by a newly added /drinkwater emote.
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  8. #18
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 97
    I think that would be pretty cool, actually. Obviously they shouldn't promise that "the winner will become a new job," but it could be merely something just for fun to see what players can come up with. The devs could see if there are any prominent themes/ideas that a lot of players want, or maybe it would just inspire them to look into fresh ideas outside of their own imaginations.

    What I'm saying is... NEKOMANCER. Give us a cat-based mage please, Yoshi-P.
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  9. #19
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I actually don't have an issue with this from a purely aesthetic perspective: Weapon, AF armor, soulstone design, B stance/V stance, name of job, etc.

    It would be really cool to see what the playerbase comes up with, and the different designs for popular jobs such as Geomancer, Puppet Master, Corsair, and so forth.
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