What If we have 1 more dps for Light Parties and 2 more for Full Parties?

[Vandso]

We have 4 Healers, 4 Tanks and almost 12 Dps. This is a ratio of 1:3. Since there are way more dps than other roles, shouldn't we have more dps on instances? You'd have to rebalance the whole game for that, but I think queues would be significantly better.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

It MIGHT increase Queue times to add 1 more deeps...but I dont think I like the idea of the boss getting more health, or dps getting nerfed slightly to add in another DPS.
Probably a little extreme, but there is usually a Cause and effect, or "you gotta give, to receive" kinda pendulum swing.

[Aword3213]

maybe make each role equally engaing or equally enjoyable instead

[Derio]

The problem with that is you have to completely change the way you design content. You have to account for that extra person in boss encounters so the area has to be a bit larger and you have to re-tune how many healing abilities work since they scale up to 8 people. Not to mention healers would have to account for 2 additional people further adding stress to the job which would only justify devs to simplify the job even more.

It would make a small dent in queue times, but overall wouldnt be too helpful for the game.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Every group fight in the game would have to be rebalanced.

[Deo14]

I would like to avoid what those geniuses behind overwatch 2 did with their 6v6 -> 5v5 move. It's likely more apparent for that game, but even in FFXIV, there will be plenty of unwanted consequences for changing something so fundamental.

From top of my head:
- Reaching buff limit and other problems associated with too many buffs stacking
- Most duties (250+) will need to be reworked. Not just numerical changes, EX and higher mechs are made for 8 people. This would often include even arena's floor change, since it's often split into 8 pieces.
- Players will have weird positions, instead of cardinals + intercardinals, players will need to be 36 degrees apart
- This split won't be symmetrical, since melees want SW/SE spots because of positionals
- Positionals will also need party comp with 2 melees max, otherwise some melees will have no access to positionals.
- If there is someone who still plays with other's VFX on, then even they will turn them off.
- Higher likelihood of duplicate jobs. This is more serious than for tanks/heals, since they can smiply just swap to different tank/heal, because they share same gear.

As for positives, I don't really see many, and definitely not enough to outweight even these few examples that I've listed.

[Oizen]

Imagine if SE just made healers and tanks more appealing to the masses

[Hanayumi]

Imagine if SE just made healers and tanks more appealing to the masses

They did appeal to the masses... thats the issue, a lot of easier jobs are picked far more over the more complex so SE solution is to ease up everything for the larger casual group but in turn making it boring for the smaller groups that like the complexity...

[Toutatis]

I’d rather they invest resources in creating new content than something like this that would create another set of problems. Maybe you’d get even less healers and longer queue times if you give them more people to heal. Some people don’t want to heal or tank because it makes them anxious. Tanks and healers are in demand and not just in FFXIV.

[Gullis]

I prefer smaller groups, Because it just feels more like each players matter. Problem with this of course, is that they would have to redo every single piece of group content in the game. Probably never gonna happen.