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    Vandso's Avatar
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    Is there really any way for them to f*ck up the next job reveal?

    I feel like we would get hyped for anything, unless they announce something like Green Mage. Actually, even then I don't think people would be too disappointed. The jobs may feel like the same in their playstyle, but they're really unique and well designed in visuals. When I look back, when I was a new player every job looked so fricking awesome I couldn't choose what I would play (fortunally I could play all of them). Well, I guess the last ones, Sage and Reaper, were a little of putting to me since they don't belong to previous Final Fantasy, but they're still really cool. I just wished Sage would be called "Medic" instead.

    What about you? Is there any job you didn't like when it was announced? Is there any that you wouldn't like to be added to the game?
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    Last edited by Vandso; 04-30-2023 at 11:41 AM.

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    We're only going to get one job and it'll probably be a caster DPS and people will all be outraged. I also doubt we'll get any new races.

    By default it's going to cause outrage even though it's clear at this point this game is trying to slowly water down expectations.
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    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    We're only going to get one job and it'll probably be a caster DPS and people will all be outraged. I also doubt we'll get any new races.

    By default it's going to cause outrage even though it's clear at this point this game is trying to slowly water down expectations.
    Nah... It will be a new melee job that exclusively deals magic damage and uses a new INT based melee set.

    Then you'll have that group of players crying "Why no new mage job?! Role is being ignored!"

    Followed by SE going "We added a new ranged DPS job back in Shadowbringers"

    And then said group of players: "But... but... Mage isn't ranged DPS"

    TBH the comments made awhile back about them apparently not using jobs from previous FF games going forward raises some questions. However the primary thoughts are the following.

    Does this mean we're going to see some entirely brand new jobs in the future that possibly come with new weapons we haven't seen in the franchise before?

    And does this mean that jobs from non FF titles in SE's library that featured job systems are fair game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    We're only going to get one job and it'll probably be a caster DPS and people will all be outraged. I also doubt we'll get any new races.

    By default it's going to cause outrage even though it's clear at this point this game is trying to slowly water down expectations.
    Nah, Casters by and large don't go on covers because they don't sell units. Same reason they'll never put a healer on the cover.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    I also doubt we'll get any new races.
    As has been said, there wont be any new races after Fem Hrothgar come out. Has been stated more than a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandso View Post
    I feel like we would get hyped for anything, unless they announce something like Green Mage. Actually, even then I don't think people would be too disappointed. The jobs may feel like the same in their playstyle, but they're really unique and well designed in visuals. When I look back, when I was a new player every job looked so fricking awesome I couldn't choose what I would play (fortunally I could play all of them). Well, I guess the last ones, Sage and Reaper, were a little of putting to me since they don't belong to previous Final Fantasy, but they're still really cool. I just wished Sage would be called "Medic" instead.

    What about you? Is there any job you didn't like when it was announced? Is there any that you wouldn't like to be added to the game?
    Sage is literally a job in FFIII and in FF Tactics Advance and FFTA2. Although I guess FFXIV's version is entirely different from those games anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Sage is literally a job in FFIII and in FF Tactics Advance and FFTA2. Although I guess FFXIV's version is entirely different from those games anyway
    It's not. It's just the name that it's the same. They don't even play similarly.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandso View Post
    It's not. It's just the name that it's the same. They don't even play similarly.
    Sage in the Tactics Advance games did not know any traditional White Magic at all except for one. Raise for TA, Esunaga for TA2. Other than that their spell lists were just Blind, Water, Aero, Gigaflare, Bio, Ultima Blow, with Drain for TA and Scathe for TA2. Doesn't sound like the traditional FF3/FF4 Sage either. Which may have fueled their desire to do something unique for FF14 since half of the games didn't share the same setup for Sage, meaning there was no real consensus on how Sage was supposed to be.
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    unpopular opinion, but I dont want any new jobs.

    fix what they have, solidify what they do, and if they insist on a new job for people like the OP.... stop stealing what few skills the job segment has! because every new job lessens the others in that group. new ranged magic user, well blm and smn will have things.. redistributed, lessening job identity. we have little enough job identity now, SE needs to stop catering and just firm up what they have, and put serious thought into new and unique job skills if they are going to insist on adding new jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    unpopular opinion, but I dont want any new jobs.
    I stand with you here.
    We have enough jobs. Its cool to ever expand and give cool new toys...but you knows whats better then a cool new toy? Upgrading and Improving the old ones.
    We need balancing and improved systems. I hate to use other games, but in this current season of Apex Legends they Overhauled and did a complete change to the gameplay. FFXIV could use something like that.
    Bring back or create Job Identities. Fix and Overhaul a couple jobs we all know NEED it (Drk and perhaps Ast and Scholar) and make encounters better.

    TL/DR - We dont need a new job. We need Current Job Balance.
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