Patch 1.22c Notes

[NadienKirisame]

It was only after crazy research that I decided to come back to this thread with a major headache to find you links xD Thanks for the links! The buddy system sounds completely fascinating but I have yet to find much about Summoners in Yoshi's own words. Oh well, reading best saved for another day xD Thanks so much for your help <3

No problem I will help all I can when someone thirsts for knowledge ^^

here are more links to other interviews from E3... I will search for the old interviews that mentioned SMN as well ^^
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2012/06...cks-and-rocks/

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/...-playstation-3

http://andriasang.com/con1d3/ffxiv_interview/

http://venturebeat.com/2012/06/05/fi...ble-franchise/

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/06/05...look-gorgeous/

http://www.1up.com/features/ffxiv-in...nix-fallen-mmo

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[Tsubarta]

I don't mind the contrived nature of the AF weapon acquisition, I really don't. It's a fairly reasonable system for the game's de facto e-peen weapons, and the speed at which people have decoded everything is a far cry from the old days. We'll probably be seeing people with AF weapons by the end of the week, honestly.

What makes this update absolutely terrible is the GC promotions. 50k seals for some weapons that are kinda-sorta on par with Ifrit and not anywhere near as good as Garuda? Either they're making new BS stat calculations in order to improve the weapons like they did with "DPS" and Garuda weapons in the near future, or this is just the most disrespectful gauge of the playerbase intelligence I've seen. All people complain about is grind, and wanting to do things in a more interesting fashion, and all they do is make the grinds worse.

I'm glad to see they aren't abandoning faction leves, I hope the stuff which drops is pretty cool.

[Airget]

Haven't seen this anywhere but it seems they added the "Hamlet" gathered items to Caravan runs, just got 10 supple branches from a run. This may be the new items introduced into the Caravan run so they might not be needed for relics.

[MariyaShidou]

How is Lieutenant on par with Ifrit? Actually, how the heck is Ifrit on par with Lieutenant? Sergeant with Sanction is already better than Ifrit. Take Ifrit/Moogle bow, they can't break 37 dps, while Lieutenant has 40.3 dps.

The supple branch for caravan is already presented in 1.22b.

[heit]

Disappointing...

[Asiaine]

In a game where there is little low level content, or content that doesn't require enormous investments of time to see a result, where exactly does Square Enix intend to move this game to?

As someone who travels a lot for work and is eager to pursue even small achievements in the game such as these GC weapons, charging 25,000 seals for both a rank and then per weapon is exactly the opposite of opening the game up to normal players.

When we reflect on the state of the game we currently have Garuda which, for the most part is inaccessible to the general player base, relics which (accurately) demand a large amount of attention and time investment and now the Grand Company weapons and equipment which push the players through monotonous game play. What good does this do for people who cannot play every day?

I'm not sure I can entirely agree to this. Getting 25,000 (or 50,000) seals is not the opposite of opening the game up to normal players. In fact, I would dare say it is making it more accessible to normal players.

A normal player can choose to do this very easy caravan run, a few times a week and make forward progress. Those seals are guaranteed, and will not expire. It will even take the same amount of time (roughly) as a hard core player. The only difference is a hard core player will do 30 caravan runs in one day, whereas a 'normal' may do it over a week. Either way the end result is the same: After 30 runs both players have something to show for it.

Garuda is only inaccessible not due to the game itself but due to the community. Enough member sof the community decided that Garuda is now too hard to do and have choosen not to do it, thus making it harder for others to do it.

People who can not play every day still make positive forward progress. This is exactly what everyone has been asking for and wanting. Casual player may take longer (real time) to finish than a hard core player, but this should be accepted by all.

As for Monotony, it's only as monotonous as you choose to make it. If you say: I shall do ONLY caravan!... guess what.. it becomes monotnous.

Find a balance in other content (there is more than 1 way to get seals), and don't focus non-stop only on that.

[Doho]

Haven't seen this anywhere but it seems they added the "Hamlet" gathered items to Caravan runs, just got 10 supple branches from a run. This may be the new items introduced into the Caravan run so they might not be needed for relics.

those have always been caravan rewards, i've gotten a couple as well as kidney ore and fish

[AlphaDragoon]

You know, the GC weapons are a lot of seals but at least you can actually work towards getting them and know you're making progress unlike the RNG lottery AKA Relic/Primal weapons.

I approve.

[TheFatHousecat]

You know, the GC weapons are a lot of seals but at least you can actually work towards getting them and know you're making progress unlike the RNG lottery AKA Relic/Primal weapons.

I approve.

Garuda isn't RNG

[Asiaine]

What makes this update absolutely terrible is the GC promotions. 50k seals for some weapons that are kinda-sorta on par with Ifrit and not anywhere near as good as Garuda? Either they're making new BS stat calculations in order to improve the weapons like they did with "DPS" and Garuda weapons in the near future, or this is just the most disrespectful gauge of the playerbase intelligence I've seen. All people complain about is grind, and wanting to do things in a more interesting fashion, and all they do is make the grinds worse.

I'm glad to see they aren't abandoning faction leves, I hope the stuff which drops is pretty cool.

Well, to be fair:
25k seal for promotion -- You do not loose this promotion and it enables you to continue with other GC quests and more ranks, plus all the privileges of being an Officer. I do not expect the next promotion to be 25k (a guess of 4-5k would be more reasonable).

25k for a weapon -- That's a lot, yes, but gosh those are good weapons! Let's take a few examples:
Mogstaff: Magic Accuracy +30, and magical Critical Hit Rating +15
Flame Lieutentant's Cudgel: Magic Accuracy +43, HP +70, MP -70, Earth Resistance +15

These two are on par, and I would say the cudgel is better (A 1-handed weapon versus 2, allowing you to use a shield for more stats). I have Mogstaff and I will use the Cudgel instead.

It's more fun with WHM stuff:
Ifrit's Cane: Attack Magic Potency +30, Fire Resistance +15
Malevolent Mogwand: Magic Accuracy +30, Magic Critical Hit Rating +15
Flame Lieutenant's Wand: Vitality +10, Healing Magic Potency +15 (Enhancement Magic Potency +7)

Even without the bonus Enhancement from 4 flame pieces, this wand is much better than Iffy or Moogle drops.

Even the Flame Lieutenant's Bow looks on par with the COMBINED stats of the Moogle And Ifrit bow:
Ifrit's Bow: Attack Power +30
Mischievous Mogbow: Accuracy +30
Flame Lieutentant's Bow: Attack Power +30, Accuracy +20


Yes, these weapons are so worth 25k, especially if you compare them to the time needed to get the drop from the Primal fights. People wanted a consistent way to make forward progress to an item. Well, 500-1000 seals (provided you do not loose the very easy caravan run) is a VERY guaranteed way forward to an item on par with Ifrit or Moogle.

Ask yourself, 30 Caravan runs for a guaranteed weapon of your choice, or 30 Ifrit/Moogle runs for.... ?