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    I don't mind the contrived nature of the AF weapon acquisition, I really don't. It's a fairly reasonable system for the game's de facto e-peen weapons, and the speed at which people have decoded everything is a far cry from the old days. We'll probably be seeing people with AF weapons by the end of the week, honestly.

    What makes this update absolutely terrible is the GC promotions. 50k seals for some weapons that are kinda-sorta on par with Ifrit and not anywhere near as good as Garuda? Either they're making new BS stat calculations in order to improve the weapons like they did with "DPS" and Garuda weapons in the near future, or this is just the most disrespectful gauge of the playerbase intelligence I've seen. All people complain about is grind, and wanting to do things in a more interesting fashion, and all they do is make the grinds worse.

    I'm glad to see they aren't abandoning faction leves, I hope the stuff which drops is pretty cool.
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    Shayla Asiaine
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsubarta View Post
    What makes this update absolutely terrible is the GC promotions. 50k seals for some weapons that are kinda-sorta on par with Ifrit and not anywhere near as good as Garuda? Either they're making new BS stat calculations in order to improve the weapons like they did with "DPS" and Garuda weapons in the near future, or this is just the most disrespectful gauge of the playerbase intelligence I've seen. All people complain about is grind, and wanting to do things in a more interesting fashion, and all they do is make the grinds worse.

    I'm glad to see they aren't abandoning faction leves, I hope the stuff which drops is pretty cool.
    Well, to be fair:
    25k seal for promotion -- You do not loose this promotion and it enables you to continue with other GC quests and more ranks, plus all the privileges of being an Officer. I do not expect the next promotion to be 25k (a guess of 4-5k would be more reasonable).

    25k for a weapon -- That's a lot, yes, but gosh those are good weapons! Let's take a few examples:
    Mogstaff: Magic Accuracy +30, and magical Critical Hit Rating +15
    Flame Lieutentant's Cudgel: Magic Accuracy +43, HP +70, MP -70, Earth Resistance +15

    These two are on par, and I would say the cudgel is better (A 1-handed weapon versus 2, allowing you to use a shield for more stats). I have Mogstaff and I will use the Cudgel instead.

    It's more fun with WHM stuff:
    Ifrit's Cane: Attack Magic Potency +30, Fire Resistance +15
    Malevolent Mogwand: Magic Accuracy +30, Magic Critical Hit Rating +15
    Flame Lieutenant's Wand: Vitality +10, Healing Magic Potency +15 (Enhancement Magic Potency +7)

    Even without the bonus Enhancement from 4 flame pieces, this wand is much better than Iffy or Moogle drops.

    Even the Flame Lieutenant's Bow looks on par with the COMBINED stats of the Moogle And Ifrit bow:
    Ifrit's Bow: Attack Power +30
    Mischievous Mogbow: Accuracy +30
    Flame Lieutentant's Bow: Attack Power +30, Accuracy +20


    Yes, these weapons are so worth 25k, especially if you compare them to the time needed to get the drop from the Primal fights. People wanted a consistent way to make forward progress to an item. Well, 500-1000 seals (provided you do not loose the very easy caravan run) is a VERY guaranteed way forward to an item on par with Ifrit or Moogle.

    Ask yourself, 30 Caravan runs for a guaranteed weapon of your choice, or 30 Ifrit/Moogle runs for.... ?
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiaine View Post
    Well, to be fair:
    25k seal for promotion -- You do not loose this promotion and it enables you to continue with other GC quests and more ranks, plus all the privileges of being an Officer. I do not expect the next promotion to be 25k (a guess of 4-5k would be more reasonable).

    25k for a weapon -- That's a lot, yes, but gosh those are good weapons! Let's take a few examples:
    Mogstaff: Magic Accuracy +30, and magical Critical Hit Rating +15
    Flame Lieutentant's Cudgel: Magic Accuracy +43, HP +70, MP -70, Earth Resistance +15

    These two are on par, and I would say the cudgel is better (A 1-handed weapon versus 2, allowing you to use a shield for more stats). I have Mogstaff and I will use the Cudgel instead.

    It's more fun with WHM stuff:
    Ifrit's Cane: Attack Magic Potency +30, Fire Resistance +15
    Malevolent Mogwand: Magic Accuracy +30, Magic Critical Hit Rating +15
    Flame Lieutenant's Wand: Vitality +10, Healing Magic Potency +15 (Enhancement Magic Potency +7)

    Even without the bonus Enhancement from 4 flame pieces, this wand is much better than Iffy or Moogle drops.

    Even the Flame Lieutenant's Bow looks on par with the COMBINED stats of the Moogle And Ifrit bow:
    Ifrit's Bow: Attack Power +30
    Mischievous Mogbow: Accuracy +30
    Flame Lieutentant's Bow: Attack Power +30, Accuracy +20


    Yes, these weapons are so worth 25k, especially if you compare them to the time needed to get the drop from the Primal fights. People wanted a consistent way to make forward progress to an item. Well, 500-1000 seals (provided you do not loose the very easy caravan run) is a VERY guaranteed way forward to an item on par with Ifrit or Moogle.

    Ask yourself, 30 Caravan runs for a guaranteed weapon of your choice, or 30 Ifrit/Moogle runs for.... ?
    10/10

    Would read again.
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