What Forge Ahead Actually Means

[ronibosch]

Well, since we're talking about the Scions again...

I'll admit that there's a weird impassivity I feel whenever the Scions appear on-screen in post-EW.

I started feeling it during EW (earlier with Thancred, who I feel concluded his most compelling arc in ShB), but it's definitely apparent now.

Estinien is my bro, though, so I was genuinely excited to start adventuring with him again.

[VictorSpoils]

Well, since we're talking about the Scions again...

I'll admit that there's a weird impassivity I feel whenever the Scions appear on-screen in post-EW.

I started feeling it during EW (earlier with Thancred, who I feel concluded his most compelling arc in ShB), but it's definitely apparent now.

Estinien is my bro, though, so I was genuinely excited to start adventuring with him again.

I was pretty bored of the Scions by ShB. Now, not only are they outright unkillable and wearing the exact same outfits in EW, they're also voicing trial/raid bosses. The developers know what they're doing and are enjoying every bit of it.

Oh, and you WILL take your 1000th eScape remix and enjoy it. No exceptions.

[SassyAssassin]

Well, since we're talking about the Scions again...

I'll admit that there's a weird impassivity I feel whenever the Scions appear on-screen in post-EW.

I started feeling it during EW (earlier with Thancred, who I feel concluded his most compelling arc in ShB), but it's definitely apparent now.

Estinien is my bro, though, so I was genuinely excited to start adventuring with him again.

Roni bebi did you change your eye colour?

[ronibosch]

Roni bebi did you change your eye colour?

I did! I wanted to go with something more...aether-like. Lol. I was scared it would make my character look wild-eyed, though, but I like it.

Thank you for noticing!

[SassyAssassin]

I did! I wanted to go with something more...aether-like. Lol. I was scared it would make my character look wild-eyed, though, but I like it.

Thank you for noticing!

She looks ethereal even in the small icon so you definitely succeeded! I love it! :3 <3 Show us a bigger picture whenever you can if you want! <3

[Kazhar]

Well, since we're talking about the Scions again...

I'll admit that there's a weird impassivity I feel whenever the Scions appear on-screen in post-EW.

I started feeling it during EW (earlier with Thancred, who I feel concluded his most compelling arc in ShB), but it's definitely apparent now.

Estinien is my bro, though, so I was genuinely excited to start adventuring with him again.

I think the Scions have been shells of their former selves since 6.0 (Maybe a bit earlier). In a way, they seem to have regressed back to their pre-ShB characterization of just being there to say whatever is needed to make the plot move forward and overexplain the themes of the story in case anybody missed it (there are some exceptions, like Urianger. But it also feels like a rehash of previous patterns). Krile is especially guilty of this. She's an almost literal deus ex machina during the entirety of EW.

I definitely wouldn't mind an entirely new cast.

[DiaDeem]

You people have a weird fascination with character death, like it means anything on its own. The industry is plagued by really dumb character deaths put in there for shock value that actually feel cheap and worthless. Anyone seen Amanda? I think she's on a Holiday.

Anyway, as I said on another thread: Character death for the sake of itself means nothing. Stakes are created through conflict, which can mean many things, and you people need to stop being so obsessed over this ONE plot device and understand there's more to conflict than "oh no they died".

Then again, it's Wood Guy, so I don't know what I was expecting.

I said this in another thread: The Scions are fine, but they're done with their conflicts/growth, so of course they can feel stale now, much more if someone doesn't enjoy their personality at a base level. I've been saying I want new characters for 7.0 for this reason, but this has nothing to do with character death as a cheap plot device.

[VictorSpoils]

You people have a weird fascination with character death, like it means anything on its own. The industry is plagued by really dumb character deaths put in there for shock value that actually feel cheap and worthless. Anyone seen Amanda? I think she's on a Holiday.

Anyway, as I said on another thread: Character death for the sake of itself means nothing. Stakes are created through conflict, which can mean many things, and you people need to stop being so obsessed over this ONE plot device and understand there's more to conflict than "oh no they died".

Then again, it's Wood Guy, so I don't know what I was expecting.

I said this in another thread: The Scions are fine, but they're done with their conflicts/growth, so of course they can feel stale now, much more if someone doesn't enjoy their personality at a base level. I've been saying I want new characters for 7.0 for this reason, but this has nothing to do with character death as a cheap plot device.

You could argue they already went the cheap route with Horsefart. The issue with the Scions is that they kept killing them off only to immediately bring them back, not that they need to die to be interesting. It's because of the fake-outs that an actual death would be "refreshing," and it probably would've been better for them to just not face near-death experiences at all.

[DiaDeem]

The issue with the Scions is that they kept killing them off only to immediately bring them back

Shtola, yes.
Everyone else, no.

A Scion death at this point would actually feel more like a way to get cheap tears from some players rather than something fresh. I can't understand why you people are so obsessed with the concept. Actually... did you feel much of anything when Papalymo died? My argument stays the same: Let the Scions be, let's just get a new cast going entirely.

[VictorSpoils]

Shtola, yes.
Everyone else, no.

Actually, pretty much all of them have had multiple experiences by now:
-Y'shtola (Flow, bodied by Zenos, Norvrandt coma, Flow again, Thule)
-Thancred (Flow, Norvrandt coma, bodied by Ran'jit, Thule)
-Alphinaud (Coils, downed airship, Norvrandt coma, Thule)
-Alisaie (Coils, Abania, Norvrandt coma, Thule)
-Urianger (Waking Sands raid, Norvrandt coma, Thule)
-G'raha (Crystal Tower, Elidibus, Thule)
-Estinien (Nidhogg, Thule)
-Minfilia (Waking Sands raid, Flow)
-Krile (Isle of Val, Zenos)