What Forge Ahead Actually Means

[Avoidy]

I never played any of those games, so I was hoping for more elaboration tbh
That said, I agree with the plot armor comment. I like the game but even I'm willing to admit that there were things EW could have done better from a storytelling perspective, and the scions do have way too much plot armor which fucks with the suspense since we can be 99.99% certain that nothing bad is ever gonna stick. I kind of wish we didn't attach usernames to posts so people would just discuss the topic instead of kneejerking into being mad as fuck because the guy who wrote it is someone they hate but also refuse to block. Half the comments in here are so vexing. You're all grown, right? Take some agency and just block the guy so you don't have to see/bump his threads if you hate him criticizing your favorite toy so much.

[Striker44]

Take some agency and just block the guy so you don't have to see/bump his threads if you hate him criticizing your favorite toy so much.

Note: Blocking someone doesn't remove threads they start from your view in the forums, only posts they make within a thread that's already been started.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Hard to say, though any game where you spend most of it accomplishing nothing and/or helping the antagonists (*cough* FF4&9) will lose points. It's not just the story anyway.

If you got nothing then your opinion means nothing.

At least those games are much better experiences than this one

[VictorSpoils]

If you got nothing then your opinion means nothing.

At least those games are much better experiences than this one

If anyone's opinion "means nothing", it would be that of a rabid FF9 fanboy. Placing the game above FF7~FF15, much less FF14 on its own forum, is laughably audacious.

[Jeeqbit]

If you want to say people should die in stories sometimes, fine.

But the point of the scion "deaths" in Endwalker was to manipulate our feelings so we would feel despair. Because let's be honest, a lot of people will not feel the way the story writers want them to, unless they do something drastic. They want players to feel despair and the truth is we went to that place feeling hopeful and excited to kill the next boss. The only way to make us actually feel despair was to kill characters we have an attachment to and make it feel that even if we kill the boss, what is it for? We've lost everyone.

The point of Y'shtola hinting they could be resurrected was to create a light at the end of the tunnel, a spark of hope that they might survive now that you've made a lot of progress through this land.

The point of reviving them all was to restore your happiness and make it feel that you got through this land of despair successfully and now you just need to finish the job.

I don't know what your attachment is to Forge Ahead. You keep talking about it, but it's just a meaningless term that I doubt they thought about any more than I did, which was not much.

[Incinerator2]

But the point of the scion "deaths" in Endwalker was to manipulate our feelings so we would feel despair. Because let's be honest, a lot of people will not feel the way the story writers want them to, unless they do something drastic. They want players to feel despair and the truth is we went to that place feeling hopeful and excited to kill the next boss. The only way to make us actually feel despair was to kill characters we have an attachment to and make it feel that even if we kill the boss, what is it for? We've lost everyone.

LMAO FEELING DESPAIR WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS SQEX WILL JUST RESURRECT ALL THE SCIONS 10 MINS LATER.

[Atelier-Bagur]

If anyone's opinion "means nothing", it would be that of a rabid FF9 fanboy. Placing the game above FF7~FF15, much less FF14 on its own forum, is laughably audacious.

Buddy if you think that narrative mess of a game with FFXV is actually worth defending then you are out of touch.

It seems youve somewhat given me an answer though since you range specifically FFVII- FFXV?

[VictorSpoils]

Buddy if you think that narrative mess of a game with FFXV is actually worth defending then you are out of touch.

It seems youve somewhat given me an answer though since you range specifically FFVII- FFXV?

It's just amusing how FFXV is the only game you've chosen to put down and haven't even elaborated on why, while claiming I "have nothing" after already stating one annoying flaw and are "out of touch" after you took a controversial stance. It's no surprise which game in that range sold the worst.

[Incinerator2]

Is this thread going to turn into another warzone between Zodiark Trancers and /mmog/

[Atelier-Bagur]

It's just amusing how FFXV is the only game you've chosen to put down and haven't even elaborated on why, while claiming I "have nothing" after already stating one annoying flaw and are "out of touch" after you took a controversial stance. It's no surprise which game in that range sold the worst.

One of your first arguments was that you called out how the protagonists inadvertenly helped the antagonist so therefore its bad.

This is rich, its almost as if youre just so beyond clueless. Do you not realize 70 percent of FFVII's plot was you being manipulated by Sephiroth? Or how incompetent Squall and his team were in almost every single SeeD mission in FFVIII? Or how pointless Vaan was in FFXII or how stupid and hateable the cast was in FFXIII?

If anyone with the controversial take here is you for saying that FFXIV and these games are above FFIX (which wasnt perfect anyway and had just as many Ls as these games).