Looking at other Regions playing XIV

[Turnintino]

What content are you referring to? I queue with randoms every day on Aether for roulettes and I don't see anyone refusing to do their role or refusing to participate. Most runs are quick and simple.

I've had the same experience on Primal. If I notice any deviation, it's usually among sprouts and new tanks/healers in lower level content who are just learning -- and even then, it's rare that it's a persistent issue.

Granted, the hardest content I ever run are Extremes lol. Touching on your second point, I'm not personally interested in running high-end content, so I simply... don't.

[NekoMataMata]

What content are you referring to? I queue with randoms every day on Aether for roulettes and I don't see anyone refusing to do their role or refusing to participate. Most runs are quick and simple.

NA does have lower clear rates for things, but that's because we don't have a culture where we feel we have to do content just because the developers put it out there. They gave us the choice to do it or not and we participate in the things we're interested in.

Honestly, I care less about the quality of players and just wish more people would bother to do content on NA. I spent over 5 hours queued up for Euphrosyne yesterday evening to get my weekly clear. Even interest in current content seems to be dwindling. You can't play a multiplayer game alone.

And I know someone is going to lecture me on how it's my server(I'm not queueing for it on Dyna), or how it's the time(prime time NA) or the day of the week(okay maybe) or maybe it's your role(dps so probably not). To me it's unacceptable though. Regardless of all these factors, a multiplayer game as big as this should probably have people on at all times of the day queueing for different content.

I'm pretty much on the edge of just packing up my house and quitting at this point. The game isn't dead. The people playing it just aren't playing the content. Outside of roulettes, getting specific content, or even seeing anything interesting in party finder(actually seeing anything in party finder) is a rarity.

[Turnintino]

Honestly, I care less about the quality of players and just wish more people would bother to do content on NA. I spent over 5 hours queued up for Euphrosyne yesterday evening to get my weekly clear. Even interest in current content seems to be dwindling. You can't play a multiplayer game alone.

And I know someone is going to lecture me on how it's my server(I'm not queueing for it on Dyna), or how it's the time(prime time NA) or the day of the week(okay maybe) or maybe it's your role(dps so probably not). To me it's unacceptable though. Regardless of all these factors, a multiplayer game as big as this should probably have people on at all times of the day queueing for different content.

I'm pretty much on the edge of just packing up my house and quitting at this point. The game isn't dead. The people playing it just aren't playing the content. Outside of roulettes, getting specific content, or even seeing anything interesting in party finder(actually seeing anything in party finder) is a rarity.

I wanna be very clear that I'm not suggesting you're being dishonest -- I don't necessarily find it hard to believe lol. That said, that sounds insane to me. I regularly forget to get my clear till the end of the week (in fact, this reminded me that I still haven't yet...), and I tend to play late at night (PST), but I've never had to wait longer than maybe fifteen minutes, max, for Euphrosyne.

Regardless, you're infinitely more patient than I am lol. I probably would've withdrawn a half an hour into the queue at the absolute latest.

[DixieBellOCE]

Honestly, I care less about the quality of players and just wish more people would bother to do content on NA. I spent over 5 hours queued up for Euphrosyne yesterday evening to get my weekly clear. Even interest in current content seems to be dwindling. You can't play a multiplayer game alone.

And I know someone is going to lecture me on how it's my server(I'm not queueing for it on Dyna), or how it's the time(prime time NA) or the day of the week(okay maybe) or maybe it's your role(dps so probably not). To me it's unacceptable though. Regardless of all these factors, a multiplayer game as big as this should probably have people on at all times of the day queueing for different content.

I'm pretty much on the edge of just packing up my house and quitting at this point. The game isn't dead. The people playing it just aren't playing the content. Outside of roulettes, getting specific content, or even seeing anything interesting in party finder(actually seeing anything in party finder) is a rarity.

This was my argument when i left Matera 11 months ago and went back to JP and then onto NA (Seraph specifically).

People are not willing to engage with the content that the game provides, either because its too easy and boring, or the content has been out for 3+ months and is still locked to rewards once per week. Everyone is sick of it.

People spend 90% of their time pretending XIV is an IMVU simulator and ERPing/AFKing and refuse to actually play the content the game has.

At this point the game either needs to churn out more engaging content, or start drip feeding content every 2-4 weeks to keep people engaged. (AND I HATE DRIP FED CONTENT!)

[Atelier-Bagur]

This was my argument when i left Matera 11 months ago and went back to JP and then onto NA (Seraph specifically).

People are not willing to engage with the content that the game provides, either because its too easy and boring, or the content has been out for 3+ months and is still locked to rewards once per week. Everyone is sick of it.

People spend 90% of their time pretending XIV is an IMVU simulator and ERPing/AFKing and refuse to actually play the content the game has.

At this point the game either needs to churn out more engaging content, or start drip feeding content every 2-4 weeks to keep people engaged. (AND I HATE DRIP FED CONTENT!)

content every 2-4 weeks is just not feasible for developers to do. Heck I keep saying the grass is always greener with WoW in how much content the game has but even in that game where it actually has more engaging stuff to do than current FFXIV.....people are already quitting or just stop playing.

Its foolish to actually listen to the addicted players who keep yelling and shouting "please sir, I want some more". This doesnt excuse the game for not having just a taaaad more bit something to chew on, but no matter how much more retention content this game churns out, people will still complain, people will be unhappy one way or another, its part of the nature of the average MMO player. Somehow, someway, somebody will find something to complain about.

[DixieBellOCE]

content every 2-4 weeks is just not feasible for developers to do. Heck I keep saying the grass is always greener with WoW in how much content the game has but even in that game where it actually has more engaging stuff to do than current FFXIV.....people are already quitting or just stop playing.

Its foolish to actually listen to the addicted players who keep yelling and shouting "please sir, I want some more". This doesnt excuse the game for not having just a taaaad more bit something to chew on, but no matter how much more retention content this game churns out, people will still complain, people will be unhappy one way or another, its part of the nature of the average MMO player. Somehow, someway, somebody will find something to complain about.

I mean this sums it up.



It is the most profitable title Square Enix has ever had, and they want to 'spare no expense' on keeping players happy.
Which means spending the money on an extra development team for 7.0 to bring about a faster release pace for content.

If they cannot keep to their own word, and are not willing to spend the extra money to produce long lasting content that will keep people happy during the downtime between major patches, then they shouldn't be making statements like this.
Looking at the JP forums and many other fan based forums for XIV, the same issue rings out loudly, People want more.

[NekoMataMata]

I wanna be very clear that I'm not suggesting you're being dishonest -- I don't necessarily find it hard to believe lol. That said, that sounds insane to me. I regularly forget to get my clear till the end of the week (in fact, this reminded me that I still haven't yet...), and I tend to play late at night (PST), but I've never had to wait longer than maybe fifteen minutes, max, for Euphrosyne.

Regardless, you're infinitely more patient than I am lol. I probably would've withdrawn a half an hour into the queue at the absolute latest.

To be fair, this was the last thing I needed off my weekly checklist, and I did other things while I waited. Like there's no way I'm going to sit there and stare at the screen for 5 hours while queueing. I have a bunch of finals all through next week so I just studied until the queue popped. It's just one benefit of being a student.

Once I finish school in around 4-5 years I won't be so lucky as to be able to wrap my schedule or my rl tasks around the game's queues.

This was my argument when i left Matera 11 months ago and went back to JP and then onto NA (Seraph specifically).

People are not willing to engage with the content that the game provides, either because its too easy and boring, or the content has been out for 3+ months and is still locked to rewards once per week. Everyone is sick of it.

People spend 90% of their time pretending XIV is an IMVU simulator and ERPing/AFKing and refuse to actually play the content the game has.

At this point the game either needs to churn out more engaging content, or start drip feeding content every 2-4 weeks to keep people engaged. (AND I HATE DRIP FED CONTENT!)

Or they should just figure out who their target audience is. If they want to let the IMVU people take over, then let them take over and the rest of us can move on.

[Aword3213]

If they want to let the IMVU people take over, then let them take over and the rest of us can move on.

Can we? I doubt it

[TaleraRistain]

Honestly, I care less about the quality of players and just wish more people would bother to do content on NA. I spent over 5 hours queued up for Euphrosyne yesterday evening to get my weekly clear. Even interest in current content seems to be dwindling. You can't play a multiplayer game alone.

And I know someone is going to lecture me on how it's my server(I'm not queueing for it on Dyna), or how it's the time(prime time NA) or the day of the week(okay maybe) or maybe it's your role(dps so probably not). To me it's unacceptable though. Regardless of all these factors, a multiplayer game as big as this should probably have people on at all times of the day queueing for different content.

I'm pretty much on the edge of just packing up my house and quitting at this point. The game isn't dead. The people playing it just aren't playing the content. Outside of roulettes, getting specific content, or even seeing anything interesting in party finder(actually seeing anything in party finder) is a rarity.

I can only speak for Aether. I forget about Euphrosyne every week. I end up doing it Sunday night or Monday night in Eastern prime time. I run it strictly on RPR since I still eff up a couple things so I don't want to heal or tank it yet. My queue is never longer than about 20 or 30 minutes. Dunno about the status on the other NA data centers. I see Dynamis folks in these runs from time to time but not often the other NA data centers.

Granted, the hardest content I ever run are Extremes lol. Touching on your second point, I'm not personally interested in running high-end content, so I simply... don't.

Same. I've heard that JP servers kind of expect everyone to do it because the devs put it out. But here on NA we do what we're interested in and leave what we aren't to those who are. And we catch a lot of flack around here simply because we stick with what we like. I've never understood why it's such an issue and something we get judged on that we do content because we'll enjoy it and avoid anything we won't.

[Absimiliard]

This isn't an NA problem. It's a worldwide problem. Every region has seen a marked increase in queue times for certain content.

Euphrosyne isn't what I would consider a fair point of comparison, however. Its queue times have been surprisingly long since its inception, though they are undeniably much longer now than they were when it was new. The mere fact it had such long queue times at release tells us more than a few people didn't like it.