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    Looking at other Regions playing XIV

    EU and JP may complain about a lack of content, but they are playing what they have and making the most out of it, teaching people old content, clearing people through ultimates who wanna learn, etc.

    I've come to realize NA is the only region for XIV thats struggling with playing this game, NA would rather crowd together in discords over populating the worlds, doing content, and actually working together to make this feel like a normal MMO. And thats kinda sad.

    I used to think FF was just in a poor state, and thats not denying all of its flaws. But NA just refuses to be normal.
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    As an NA player that tries to catch up on old content this honestly is actually making me consider a paid transfer.

    I'm genuinely not trying to attack the people on NA servers or put all of the game's faults on them, but I have been insulted by other NA players more often than not for actually trying to catch up on older content and play the game.
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    I'm sure this will lead to a very pleasant and positive conversation and not just become a giant hate thread for NA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I'm sure this will lead to a very pleasant and positive conversation and not just become a giant hate thread for NA.

    /s
    A lot can be avoided is they took criticism normally. Like normal people do in any other game, regions, places.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    A lot can be avoided is they took criticism normally. Like normal people do in any other game, region, place.......
    I know plenty of people that do take criticism normally and yes, you're not wrong that we have *some* people that live in a bubble. However, I don't think it's necessarily fair to just slam NA and associate the bad apples with every single member of NA when every region has issues in different forms. I've personally been insulted for being American more times than I can count by members of EU, JP and AUS when I was visiting other regions to see what they were like and on this forum but I don't associate those instances with the entire region nor make threads about them trying to provoke hate. I just recognize that there are people who will be vocal/insulting regardless of where you go and try to give new people I meet the benefit of the doubt unless proven otherwise. I'm not going to get along with everyone's ideals and not everyone is going to get along with mine and that's fine. I just gravitate towards where it is good for me and let those who I don't agree with live their lives as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    As an NA player that tries to catch up on old content this honestly is actually making me consider a paid transfer.

    I'm genuinely not trying to attack the people on NA servers or put all of the game's faults on them, but I have been insulted by other NA players more often than not for actually trying to catch up on older content and play the game.
    They don't wanna be confronted with having to be better at the game and understand how content works, so they insult you instead, yeah, sounds NA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I know plenty of people that do take criticism normally and yes, you're not wrong that we have *some* people that live in a bubble. However, I don't think it's necessarily fair to just slam NA and associate the bad apples with every single member of NA when every region has issues in different forms. I've personally been insulted for being American more times than I can count by members of EU, JP and AUS when I was visiting other regions to see what they were like and on this forum but I don't associate those instances with the entire region nor make threads about them trying to provoke hate. I just recognize that there are people who will be vocal and insulting regardless of where you go.
    ANd this is not a matter of insulting people. This is a matter of people not playing the game, not learning the game, not getting better at the game. THe block button is right there if you get insulted and so is the report button. But can I have one day in NA where I'm not dead carrying a run on any Role because I have an ounce of competence and can think for longer then 5 min?
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    ANd this is not a matter of insulting people. This is a matter of people not playing the game, not learning the game, not getting better at the game. THe block button is right there if you get insulted and so is the report button. But can I have one day in NA where I'm not dead carrying a run on any Role because I have an ounce of competence and can think for longer then 5 min?
    Can you provide a recent example/the origin of this thread? I'm curious what actually happened to provoke this.

    But I will say using the words "But NA just refuses to be normal" comes off like a way to start a hate thread to me. It could have been worded differently such as "What makes NA play so differently compared to other regions?". That's just my opinion and if you don't agree then that's fine. Not gonna ruin my day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Can you provide a recent example/the origin of this thread? I'm curious what actually happened to provoke this.

    But I will say using the words "But NA just refuses to be normal" comes off like a way to start a hate thread to me. That's just my opinion and if you don't agree then that's fine. Not gonna ruin my day.
    Years of playing NA and the massive decline since the beginning of Shadowbringers. I've made several threads before talking about the state of XIV. The game has flaws a lot of them. But in other regions said flaws don't keep people from playing the game, doing content, helping others. In NA you can barely do content without someone refusing to do their job, refusing to participate, now knowing their role, and its just handwaved a lot. I may have PF, which is fun, and it's nice, but I should be able to queue with randoms and just "do" content.

    Is this me saying new people aren't welcome? No. Am I saying people don't forget or can't be returners, etc, etc. No. What I am saying is that in any other MMO NA people do the things I see EU and JP doing, normally, so why is XIV NA the odd one out compared to two other regions playing the same game.

    As for NA, lowest clear rates, inability to say much without it turning to throwing mud. I get runs regularly where if I ask my co healer to heal I can shit for it over them just playing the game. And this isn;t saying the same can't happen elsewhere, but its been p normal to just work together and make the run fast elsewhere.

    So just a combination of things all adding up to this.

    Edit: And no I think refuses to be normal is the best way to word it, as no other MMO or Region within this MMO has these specific problems.
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