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    Trying to get in ffxiv, not new to mmorpgs

    I've played ffxiv alone most of the time I've been around. I never really done one of the raids or fully gotten into the game (don't really know how to). However, I know of them and have watched one of my friends play in them (he no longer plays). I'm not new to mmorpgs. I've played WoW for several years, but have fallen off the last couple of years.
    I've been looking to get more into ffxiv, but have no idea where to start. I've not played through endwalker yet. Questing is really tedious for me when there's no end reward, you know? so if anyone has any tips, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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    Because FF14 is a terrible MMORPG.

    If you understand MMORPGs, and go in expecting an MMORPG then you're going to be disappointed.

    It is a single player game with average multiplayer elements.

    Unfortunately, Final Fantasy fans had a bit of a cry when they realised that the original FF14 was a good MMORPG (as it borrowed heavily from FFXI) and, sadly, Square didn't want to drown under the salty tears of the whiners.

    If you don't like the experience now (with the questing), you're never going to like it. There are plenty of actual, proper MMORPGs out there to try.
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    It really depends on your interests and goals. What do you want out of the game? Only by knowing that, can we really help you. Common examples are...
    • Story/lore person.
    • Raiding/difficult content.
    • Social/to interact and make friends.
    • Roleplaying.
    • Collecting things (achievements, mounts, minions, or whatever else).
    • Pvp.
    Everyone plays MMORPGs for different reasons, or a combination. If we tried to explain everything about the game, we would be here a long time writing posts. So knowing what you actually want out of the game will help us narrow down our suggestions for you.

    The main thing with the quests is that the fireball quest is the most important one. It has an endgoal, which is unlocking all the areas and its associated content, although it sometimes gives other things such as experience, mounts and minions.

    The blue quests unlock content or game features, but are technically optional.

    To participate in raids, you would just queue for them using Duty Finder. Although it depends which type of raids.
    • Binding Coils were meant to be the hard raids for A Realm Reborn, so they are not supplied by a roulette.
    • Anything labeled (Extreme), Minstrel's Ballad, (Unreal), (Savage) or (Ultimate) is meant to be difficult content, and isn't supplied by a roulette, so the queues could take days or never succeed. Extreme and Minstrel's Ballad are supplied by Mentor Roulette, but only a relatively small portion of players have access to that, so the queue could still take hours or days.
    • Alliance Raids (24-person raids) are casual content and you can queue for any of them and it will be fine.
    • Starting in Heavensward, the 8-person raids have an easy story version and a (Savage) version. So if it does not say (Savage), just queue for it and you will eventually get into it and it'll be easy.
    • People don't do old "hard" raids in their challenging form very much. They just destroy them easily in their higher-level gear, or focus on the latest ones at max level. But there are small communities who do old raids with settings that make them difficult again, for fun/the experience of doing it.
    • "Hard" raids are typically recruited for either in Party Finder, in discord PUG servers, or by forming statics through discord, reddit or websites such as https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVRECRUITMENT/ or https://www.xivrecruit.com/
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Thank you. and I think I'm definitely looking for a social but also difficult content. I'll take a look into what you suggested and just get through the quests and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greywclf View Post
    social but also difficult content
    ok then ignore 99% of the forums that hasn't done a single extreme or savage

    go on the balance discord: https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/

    ask your questions there and get into raiding, the forums are literally pepegas and they will give you horrible advice

    and don't use community finder to find statics (FF14 version of guilds) use discord

    gilgamesh also used to be the raiding server back in HW, it won't be hard to find a social FC with raiders.
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    Last edited by Koros; 08-02-2023 at 10:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    ok then ignore 99% of the forums that hasn't done a single extreme or savage

    go on the balance discord: https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/

    ask your questions there and get into raiding, the forums are literally pepegas and they will give you horrible advice

    and don't use community finder to find statics (FF14 version of guilds) use discord

    gilgamesh also used to be the raiding server back in HW, it won't be hard to find a social FC with raiders.
    This basically.

    90% of forum dwellers have not even completed the normal raid tier, let alone an extreme or savage fight in their lifetime, but will still give you advice as if they had.

    The Balance will be your best bet for information on specific jobs, openers and general rotations. They have dedicated sections for each job, where you can chat with other high end players and have any questions answered by people who are qualified to answer it.

    Raiding is good fun, but just don't expect it to last much longer than 8-12 weeks before it becomes the regular chore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    90% of forum dwellers have not even completed the normal raid tier, let alone an extreme or savage fight in their lifetime, but will still give you advice as if they had.
    I cant even complete MSQ, since its very boring for me xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by greywclf View Post
    Thank you. and I think I'm definitely looking for a social but also difficult content. I'll take a look into what you suggested and just get through the quests and such.
    Ultimately if you want to do any form of harder content, you need to do MSQ. Unfortunately it's all locked behind it so personally I think the first step is to ask if you are even interested in the story/the time you have to put in to get to the content you want to do. Of course you can just buy a story skip to Endwalker but you'll still need to do all of the Endwalker MSQ and post-patches to unlock all of the current content dungeons, trials, etc.

    As far as FCs (guilds) and harder content go, you can find raiding FCs but the majority (in my opinion) raid with a static (group of 8 people formed via PF ads/with friends) or through the PF on their own. You can try to find a raiding FC but keep in mind that depending on when you join, groups may already be formed since the tier has been going on for a while now and you may have to wait for a slot to open up/for them to finish and offer clears to other members.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 08-02-2023 at 07:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greywclf View Post
    I've played ffxiv alone most of the time I've been around. I never really done one of the raids or fully gotten into the game (don't really know how to). However, I know of them and have watched one of my friends play in them (he no longer plays). I'm not new to mmorpgs. I've played WoW for several years, but have fallen off the last couple of years.
    I've been looking to get more into ffxiv, but have no idea where to start. I've not played through endwalker yet. Questing is really tedious for me when there's no end reward, you know? so if anyone has any tips, I'd greatly appreciate it.
    If you enjoy high level raiding, you should try out Savage and Ultimates. Start by playing through Extremes.

    If you want to ERP or go to virtual nightclubs or play this game like it's Second Life, this game is good for that too.

    However anything else, you should turn back and leave.
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    You really have to like your character and keep track of the story. If you can't do that it'll never be fun. There are some good gameplay elements but not until deep into the game so if you don't get invested in the setting it'll never click.
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