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    Dancer - Inconsistencies in traits vs other jobs.

    Just started on leveling my DNC and came upon a bit of a strange oversight from the dev team.

    Whilst pre-assigning buttons to my hotbar and getting to understand the class, I was struggling to understand how I would proc threefold fan dance for Fan Dance II. Only after opening the job guide on the web to see tooltips for max level and then using ctrl+f to search for that phrase did I see it has a 50% chance to proc from Fan Dance I/II.

    The inconsistency here is there is no trait for level 66 that coincides with this however. In all other cases that I'm aware of for other jobs, any time a tooltip updates like that there is a connected trait that shows the update. As of now, with just in-game information there is no clear way to see this change has happened unless you're specifically re-reading all your tooltips after each level up..

    Hell BRD/ARC has a trait at level 2 for it!

    I would expect something like a level 66 trait
    Name: Enhanced Fourfold Fantasy
    Description: Adds to Fan Dance I and Fan Dance II a 50% chance of granting Threefold Fan Dance
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    Last edited by bidaum92; 04-25-2023 at 02:09 AM.

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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    I don't think i ever needed to read the passive traits, everything is easy enough to understand by reading an ability tooltip.

    But inconsistency on jobs is a very common problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    everything is easy enough to understand by reading an ability tooltip.
    Thats the issue I'm highlighting with this post.


    If the DNC is <66 the tooltip doesn't have the information, and there is no other reference to Threefold Fan Dance until reaching level 66.

    Having to go externally from the game to learn the information required to help understand the basics of the job from a fresh mind-set is not the best UX,
    and when the improvement is super simple and saves someone else the trouble I ran into - why not do so?
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by bidaum92 View Post
    The inconsistency here is there is no trait for level 66 that coincides with this however. In all other cases that I'm aware of for other jobs, ....
    You need not even look to other jobs to identify the inconsistency. There is the Fourfold Fantasy trait at 30 and the Enhanced Flourish trait at 86 which tell you old actions have been revised for Fan Dance I/II and IV. It should be an easy argument for Enhanced Fan Dance or Fan Dance Mastery at 66 to alert you to revisions supporting Fan Dance III.
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