Some MMO we have

[Mcg55ss]

The difference is the people that did enjoy Eureka and Bozja played Eureka and Bozja. Where there's no staying power for Island Sanctuary or Variant even if I like them. It's a gaping hole of opportunity. Give those half of players repeatable content to do, and that's less complaining overall. Net positive.

As someone who's played MMOs as long as I have I would say this is a funny. People then complain that the quest are too repeatable and it's too boring there wasn't enough diversity in the quest and the developers were too lazy to implement more options. Don't believe me go look at WoW world quest. Completely optional content (in most cases) it's not force on the players that's out there to do but people complain constantly for multiple expansions that the content was too repeated, boring not diverse enough and they constantly bashing the developers for the lack of design. I think MMO players just want to complain regardless of what they have

[Deo14]

As someone who's played MMOs as long as I have I would say this is a funny. People then complain that the quest are too repeatable and it's too boring there wasn't enough diversity in the quest and the developers were too lazy to implement more options. Don't believe me go look at WoW world quest. Completely optional content (in most cases) it's not force on the players that's out there to do but people complain constantly for multiple expansions that the content was too repeated, boring not diverse enough and they constantly bashing the developers for the lack of design. I think MMO players just want to complain regardless of what they have

Or maybe, just maybe there is a middle ground. EW with it's content is heavily skewed towards the one and done side of spectrum, and as a result, players struggle to find people to play current content with, since it dies in a week or two. It's about finding the best compromise.

It's also important that with milions of players, there are milions of different opinions. There will always be someone complaining, nothing wrong with that.

[R041]

As someone who's played MMOs as long as I have I would say this is a funny. People then complain that the quest are too repeatable and it's too boring there wasn't enough diversity in the quest and the developers were too lazy to implement more options. Don't believe me go look at WoW world quest. Completely optional content (in most cases) it's not force on the players that's out there to do but people complain constantly for multiple expansions that the content was too repeated, boring not diverse enough and they constantly bashing the developers for the lack of design. I think MMO players just want to complain regardless of what they have

I mean yeah, we complain about everything. But the downturn is when we complain and have nothing we want to even do anymore.

You don't need to worry about me, a complainer. You need to worry about the players that end up forgetting about XIV and stop caring because there's nothing to draw them back. On a normal expac I typically do about half of the content, put it on hold for a month, then come back and finish it after about a month. But now? I just.. Finish it on the day, then I have nothing left I want to come back to.

MMO players usually do that, they take some breaks but know that when they come back, their community will still be alive because they also still have things to do, and contrary to popular belief here, it doesn't require FOMO and a constant chase. It just requires actionable, achievable, fun things that are within reach.

[hunkygladiator]

complain

What is it exactly that you're doing on these forums

[Alacran]

We are currently in content lul, it happens. With Yoshi p actively working on FFXVI, 6.4 on the horizon, & the game having gone through one of the biggest blowups in history, a drop off is only natural. We still have log in ques & there is so much set to come our way with fan fest, the expansion, & patch on the way.

Doomers that blitz content then cry the world is ending will come & go, let them. They'll be the first to cry over log in ques when the game explodes again... like it has before & will again.

[R041]

We are currently in content lul, it happens. With Yoshi p actively working on FFXVI, 6.4 on the horizon, & the game having gone through one of the biggest blowups in history, a drop off is only natural. We still have log in ques & there is so much set to come our way with fan fest, the expansion, & patch on the way.

The login queues aren't because there's a billion people logging in every second. It's because of the constant server transfers required to even do content.

6AM Marilith, only 100 players on the server, half bots. But I still have a 20 player queue? lol

[Absurdity]

The login queues aren't because there's a billion people logging in every second. It's because of the constant server transfers required to even do content.

6AM Marilith, only 100 players on the server, half bots. But I still have a 20 player queue? lol

It's because the login server works in batches. No, there is no 20+ player login queue at 4AM, it's just waiting a while for potentially more people to try and log in.

[Jojoya]

It's because the login server works in batches. No, there is no 20+ player login queue at 4AM, it's just waiting a while for potentially more people to try and log in.

Except I rarely see the queues at 4am. Queues usually start around 7 or 8 am Pacific and then last until about midnight. Between midnight and 8am, I'm rarely placed in a queue.

While it does work in batches, it works in batches during period of high log in activity and not constantly. Things like players traveling to different world for hunts or special events can mess with the queues even in off peak hours, though.

And I suspect you underestimate just how many players are online in the early morning hours, at least for NA. We have a lot of OCE, SEA and even some JP players in addition to NA players who don't have standard work schedules online. Not nearly as many as peak hours will see but still enough to get content done (Dynamis being an exception for any but leveling content).

Ahhh, the NA burbs. They need a jeep wrangler mount and some outlets for that specific DC.

Just need to get people out of the habit of automatically turning to data center travel for content. Queues continue to improve as more of the new characters created when the data center opened are completing Shadowbringers and moving into Endwalker.

They're not lightning fast queues but they're slowly catching up to other NA queue times based on time of day/content type.

[Shurrikhan]

Except I rarely see the queues at 4am. Queues usually start around 7 or 8 am Pacific and then last until about midnight. Between midnight and 8am, I'm rarely placed in a queue.

On Cactuar, Adamantoise, and Tonberry, since Shadowbringer, I have always been placed in a queue, regardless of time of day/night. I'm swing shift / emergency, so my logins tends toward the deadest hours they can be (most often 11 PM to 6 AM Pacific Time), but there's probably not a single span of 15 minutes around the whole damn clock I haven't logged in during at some point. Not once has there been no queue.

Are they significant wait times? No. But unless you by "queue" you mean "a wait time specifically of more than a dozen seconds or so" rather than the message popping up that tells you you're in literal queue, it seems very strange that the similarly Standard population Coeurl (higher population than the similarly located Cactuar and Adamantoise, by most censuses) would frequently lack queues, whatever of the time of night...


Maybe your server has a uniquely low bot population, and the server transfers as they hop between zones/instances share a metaphorical bandwidth with character logins? Otherwise, that difference would be very odd.

[Ath192]

The login queues aren't because there's a billion people logging in every second. It's because of the constant server transfers required to even do content.

6AM Marilith, only 100 players on the server, half bots.

Ahhh, the NA burbs. They need a jeep wrangler mount and some outlets for that specific DC.