The CODDLING of modern ShB/EW newbies has led to insane player skill stratification

[EstelleCere]

This tho. When Aglaia was newer, I'd seen my alliance wipe because not everyone fully understood the balance mechanic during the Nald'thal fight, and I see similar things happen in some of the other less frequented raids (both normal and alliance). But funnily enough, I personally experience the most wipes doing ARR content with new tanks/healers.

So... ultimately, this is anecdotal, and any struggle I witness is usually down to inexperience or just, like, "wow, it's been a while since I've done this one," but it still amounts to the same thing. The challenge is still there, just not for players who frequently run the content in question, and especially when said content is less formulaic than the usual fare.

Yeah, I'm still in alliances at times where people wipe, because of the reasons you listed. Hell, I still have been in wipes in CT or Stormblood raids LOL

Literally who is wiping in Euphrosyne

Many people still wipe there, especially when it was new. I saw alliances (mine included) wipe multiple times before.

[Kuroka]

Things don't need to be unclearable, but an occasional vote abandon and wipe even in casual content helps players get better and appreciate the times when it actually is a smooth experience. We had that in HW and SB and the game grew just fine then.

Having absolutely zero stakes to casual content makes for an incredibly dull experience.

I feel he's right there, the new raids, trials etc... its way too easy and dungeons became even more of an hallway sim then ever before..

Im not a fan of easy mode for story as well... there need to be points of "you need to be THIS good to continue".

[DPZ2]

Im not a fan of easy mode for story as well... there need to be points of "you need to be THIS good to continue".

Those points exist. Thankfully, they're much higher than what you might desire. An MMORPG becomes unprofitable when you make it so hard that the players you wish would quit do so..

[EstelleCere]

Maybe I'm too tired to realize this was a troll thread

[hunkygladiator]

You are participating in "outrage culture". Congratulations. Enjoy your replies.

Sorry unlike modern FF14 players I don't go around calling other people trolls and witch-hunting them.

[Turnintino]

Sorry unlike modern FF14 players I don't go around calling other people trolls and witch-hunting them.

Debatable, but I mean, alright, I didn't ask.

[Renalt]

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[Aword3213]

I hope devs keep doing what they are doing just to keep you mad

whine me some more

[SassyAssassin]

You know…it’s not worth being hunky if your personality isn’t

[hunkygladiator]

You know…it’s not worth being hunky if your personality isn’t

I'm actually an egirl irl .。･:*:･(✿◕3◕)❤(◕ε◕✿)･:*:･。.
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