About.... Umbrella Mounts

[TaleraRistain]

Hi, I'm not even talking about new content necessarily. We can't even get a moogle event until shit's just absolutely dire. What's the rate on those, like every 9 months or something? Go look at how pretty much any other MMO operates, even the f2p ones have regular events going on to keep players occupied so they don't leave and start the death spiral. We get like 5 hours of content every 4 months. For a game that charges monthly, not at least having beefy monthly events during a content drought is just suspect asf. Look at how excited people are getting over the moogle event, and what even is it? An event where we run old content, to get items that are mostly already in the game, save one earring. This wouldn't take a long time to develop. Why can't we get something like this every month? I mainly edited to clarify that I'm not out here demanding new MSQ chapters monthly or something. Just give people who are caught up something to do that actually lasts, otherwise it's like "why am I paying for this"
The main point of the part you quoted was optics really. There's someone putting in monthly work for our monthly sub, but it's reflected in the cash shop because this game's basically a cash cow that gets updated 3 times a year.

There have been a couple threads about making the moogle events more regular and if that's possible it's not a bad idea. But for the moment their pattern has been that we get one about a month before a major patch comes out and they last until maint for that patch. So it's not an event not happening until anything is dire. It's the normal pattern for these that they've started following.

[Moonlite]

Honest question for the SE defenders. IF SE can find people separate from the dev team to create cash shop items on such a regular basis, why can't they find people to make more items for the game? We have lots of systems in the game this could be added to. Mogtomes, Beast dailies, old Fates, new achievements, Eureka, Bozja, PvP, Golden saucer, Chocobo racing, TT card tournaments, Verminnion tounraments, hell just basic login points.



I am not saying close the cash shop. It is just this separate entity seems to be able to pump out items pretty well.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

They are within their rights to do what they want with it.
I am within my rights to judge them for their bad decisions.

Imagine judging someone for buying something they find entertaining with their own cash when you yourself have likely bought tons of useless things that provide entertainment to you as a person that tons of others would deem as 'bad decisions'. I pray you've never smoked, drunk alcohol or done any form of drugs, ordered fast food instead of making something cheap at home, all of which are zenith wasting money on bad decisions. Heck, buying any video game at all is a bad decision since its money you can be spending on long-term investments to secure your future, we're all making bad decisions just by existing on this forum.

But if you enjoy being a hypocrite, all the power to ya. I'm just here with my bucket of popcorn to get my daily fix of entertainment from topic#9577 of why mogstation is evil from the same 5-10 faces you see in all these topics with such laughter inducing opinions like 'why does the mogstation put out so much stuff when the game takes long to put out content' when the most basic common sense would tell anyone with slight critical thinking that creating a single 3D model is infinitely less work than creating an entire patch. Not to mention the fact they're separate teams, so the mogstation team can work on whatever they like whenever they want without adherence to scheduling, hence a much more often release schedule.

Honest question for the SE defenders. IF SE can find people separate from the dev team to create cash shop items on such a regular basis, why can't they find people to make more items for the game? We have lots of systems in the game this could be added to. Mogtomes, Beast dailies, old Fates, new achievements, Eureka, Bozja, PvP, Golden saucer, Chocobo racing, TT card tournaments, Verminnion tounraments, hell just basic login points.

I am not saying close the cash shop. It is just this separate entity seems to be able to pump out items pretty well.

Because in reality, the mogstation team likely isn't even exclusive to FF14 - its likely a division within the company that handles microtransaction assets for the majority of their games. They never 'found' people to create the mogstation team, they already existed and just had an extra task put onto them.

On top of that, its not like Yoshi-P's team isn't looking to find & hire more devs for FF14, they have job postings open all the time. But when your job requirements stipulate having to move to Tokyo & know how to read/write & speak Japanese along with having extensive coding experience, it can be quite a difficult task to find the right person to fill the job, hence 'just find more people' isn't exactly a valid solution. There's a reason Yoshi-P says most of their new hires are basically former FF14 fans that graduated from colleges & universities with comp-sci degrees.

[SannaR]

Honest question for the SE defenders. IF SE can find people separate from the dev team to create cash shop items on such a regular basis, why can't they find people to make more items for the game? We have lots of systems in the game this could be added to. Mogtomes, Beast dailies, old Fates, new achievements, Eureka, Bozja, PvP, Golden saucer, Chocobo racing, TT card tournaments, Verminnion tounraments, hell just basic login points.



I am not saying close the cash shop. It is just this separate entity seems to be able to pump out items pretty well.

Most would love for things like these to be added for free in the game. However these two items were not made in house as anything that is originally made for the Chinese and Korean versions of the game aren't made in house. Even the ones that don't start there aren't made by those that make assets for things that get put into the game to be attached to something like V&C. These along with the Balloons and a lot of various clothing that gets put into the shop are being imported in a sense.

I don't know or remember the details about how the deal with that stuff is as it's been many a year since we got told how it works. So, the main thing is they're probably not put into our version of the game for free cause of them starting out as a paid item. Now there are things that start on our side that probably should have been placed into the game for free like the Cruise Chaser mount. It should have either needed some bolts from Soul of the Creator part of Alexander, as something you got from Rival Wings achievements, or bought with Crystal Trophy/Wolf Marks.

Another example of why are these in the Cash Shop and not shoved directly into the game.are the maid and butler outfits as those were like Pizza emote, and the Butterfingers collaboration. Where each region had to buy something to get a code to then get said item. I still feel bad for the EU as twice they were made to buy magazines and magazine subscriptions. While also being left out on a more recent one. Then there's a fact that OSE tends to be SoL on most of this stuff.

[Jojoya]

Honest question for the SE defenders. IF SE can find people separate from the dev team to create cash shop items on such a regular basis, why can't they find people to make more items for the game? We have lots of systems in the game this could be added to. Mogtomes, Beast dailies, old Fates, new achievements, Eureka, Bozja, PvP, Golden saucer, Chocobo racing, TT card tournaments, Verminnion tounraments, hell just basic login points.



I am not saying close the cash shop. It is just this separate entity seems to be able to pump out items pretty well.

The number of items unique to the cash shop is small compared to the number of items added to the game and rewarded through game play.

They just stand out in your mind more because you have to go through the cash shop to get them.

List everything that's been added to the cash shop since start of Endwalker other than the seasonal event items that were in-game rewards in the first place. Then list all the rewards unique to Island Sanctuary that we can earn.

I bet the numbers aren't too different yet what we get from Island Sanctuary is just a small portion of the overall in-game rewards that have been added. And a lot of those cash shop items are going to be sharing models with items already in the game as well. Having the models already created cuts down the work that has to be done for the cash shop items considerably.

[Stormpeaks]

The number of items unique to the cash shop is small compared to the number of items added to the game and rewarded through game play.

They just stand out in your mind more because you have to go through the cash shop to get them.

List everything that's been added to the cash shop since start of Endwalker other than the seasonal event items that were in-game rewards in the first place. Then list all the rewards unique to Island Sanctuary that we can earn.

I bet the numbers aren't too different yet what we get from Island Sanctuary is just a small portion of the overall in-game rewards that have been added. And a lot of those cash shop items are going to be sharing models with items already in the game as well. Having the models already created cuts down the work that has to be done for the cash shop items considerably.

Are you serious LMAO, there's barely any item from the island sanctuary glam wise, are we really going to compare this to the giant amount of stuff from the mog station ? also the difference in quality ? Also what you say about the mog shop stuff having the same looks that are already in the game/sharing models is absolutely false

just stop trying to defend them, you're making yourself look like a fool, please

[Taralyne]

I wont be able to help myself,Im commlng in Hot on Twintania if I see a Marie Poppins.Sorry ahead of time :P

[PeaTearGriffin]

Friendly reminder that we get cash shop content every month like clockwork

Square might as well monetize ERP content too. Then they'd really be swimming in cash.

[Jojoya]

Are you serious LMAO, there's barely any item from the island sanctuary glam wise, are we really going to compare this to the giant amount of stuff from the mog station ? also the difference in quality ? Also what you say about the mog shop stuff having the same looks that are already in the game/sharing models is absolutely false

just stop trying to defend them, you're making yourself look like a fool, please

I know your main entertainment is to rage about how terrible SE is but please stop and be objective for once. Pull out some actual facts to compare.

We've gotten 4 glamour sets out of Island Sanctuary so far. Two were "Visions" rewards, two are sold by the cowrie vendor (one set with multiple leg choices, the other set with multiple body and leg choices). Those sets are unique to Island Sanctuary.

What glamours added to the online store are unique to the cash shop without being cosplay (which have been all-in-ones that players complain about) or KR/CN imports?

Island Sanctuary has given us 5 mounts. Online store has added 6 so far this expansion (at least 2 of them KR/CN imports).

More from Island Sanctuary - 2 minions, 2 Fashion Accessories, 2, hair styles, 2 Orchestrion rolls, a barding, TT card, 2 framer's kits and 7 housing furnishings.

Excluding seasonal event items that had been originally available as rewards in game, the online store has added 3 new emotes, 8 Orchestrion rolls, 1 housing furnishing.

So where is this overwhelming amount of items being added to the online store compared to what is being added as game play rewards? I only listed Island Sanctuary. Do I need to also start listing Dungeon rewards, trials rewards, raid rewards, treasure map rewards, FATE rewards, PvP rewards, Gold Saucer rewards, etc.?

If it weren't for the KR/CN glamour imports, cosplay sets that players can only seem to complain about, and the Orchestrion rolls of the orchestral arrangements of some of the game's BGM, the online store would be looking pretty sad. You'd have Fantasia, job boosts and story skips, dyes and old seasonal event items. There's not one heck of a lot there that is truly unique to the FFXIV online store.

[Stormpeaks]

My main entertainment is housing and reading the forums, reading the excuses that yall find to excuse absolute mediocrity.

We've gotten 4 glamour sets out of Island Sanctuary so far. Two were "Visions" rewards, two are sold by the cowrie vendor (one set with multiple leg choices, the other set with multiple body and leg choices). Those sets are unique to Island Sanctuary.

2 of those glams from sanctuary are decent, 1 is absolutely mediocre. Meanwhile the mog shop ones are amazing and as per usual of higher quality and better looking.

Island Sanctuary has given us 5 mounts. Online store has added 6 so far this expansion (at least 2 of them KR/CN imports).

The only decent mount from IS is the bike, the rest is terrible, meanwhile amazing mounts got added to the store.

More from Island Sanctuary - 2 minions, 2 Fashion Accessories, 2, hair styles, 2 Orchestrion rolls, a barding, TT card, 2 framer's kits and 7 housing furnishings.

Okay ? Sure, most of these dont even matter, namely the orchestrion rolls, the barding, the card and the framer kits.

Excluding seasonal event items that had been originally available as rewards in game, the online store has added 3 new emotes, 8 Orchestrion rolls, 1 housing furnishing.

And has added multiple amazing glams.

So where is this overwhelming amount of items being added to the online store compared to what is being added as game play rewards? I only listed Island Sanctuary. Do I need to also start listing Dungeon rewards, trials rewards, raid rewards, treasure map rewards, FATE rewards, PvP rewards, Gold Saucer rewards, etc.?

I never said the game has no sort of rewards, I said that the superior rewards are on the mog shop, which is true. The higher quality is on the shop.