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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    My main entertainment is housing and reading the forums, reading the excuses that yall find to excuse absolute mediocrity.

    We've gotten 4 glamour sets out of Island Sanctuary so far. Two were "Visions" rewards, two are sold by the cowrie vendor (one set with multiple leg choices, the other set with multiple body and leg choices). Those sets are unique to Island Sanctuary.
    2 of those glams from sanctuary are decent, 1 is absolutely mediocre. Meanwhile the mog shop ones are amazing and as per usual of higher quality and better looking.

    Island Sanctuary has given us 5 mounts. Online store has added 6 so far this expansion (at least 2 of them KR/CN imports).
    The only decent mount from IS is the bike, the rest is terrible, meanwhile amazing mounts got added to the store.

    More from Island Sanctuary - 2 minions, 2 Fashion Accessories, 2, hair styles, 2 Orchestrion rolls, a barding, TT card, 2 framer's kits and 7 housing furnishings.
    Okay ? Sure, most of these dont even matter, namely the orchestrion rolls, the barding, the card and the framer kits.

    Excluding seasonal event items that had been originally available as rewards in game, the online store has added 3 new emotes, 8 Orchestrion rolls, 1 housing furnishing.
    And has added multiple amazing glams.

    So where is this overwhelming amount of items being added to the online store compared to what is being added as game play rewards? I only listed Island Sanctuary. Do I need to also start listing Dungeon rewards, trials rewards, raid rewards, treasure map rewards, FATE rewards, PvP rewards, Gold Saucer rewards, etc.?
    I never said the game has no sort of rewards, I said that the superior rewards are on the mog shop, which is true. The higher quality is on the shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The number of items unique to the cash shop is small compared to the number of items added to the game and rewarded through game play.

    They just stand out in your mind more because you have to go through the cash shop to get them.

    List everything that's been added to the cash shop since start of Endwalker other than the seasonal event items that were in-game rewards in the first place. Then list all the rewards unique to Island Sanctuary that we can earn.

    I bet the numbers aren't too different yet what we get from Island Sanctuary is just a small portion of the overall in-game rewards that have been added. And a lot of those cash shop items are going to be sharing models with items already in the game as well. Having the models already created cuts down the work that has to be done for the cash shop items considerably.
    That is true. And we cant argue with that. IS rewards are really cool. Still. One W doesnt save the rest of L's. People are just frustrated with current state of the game, so they see pretty expensive digital items, that they even sell recolors, as Blizzard-like move. We can say, its still better deal for the price as its account-wide, compared to 1 character glamours for the same price, butcash shops in subscription games is always a grey zone that you need to balance with more cool ingame stuff. And only cool gear so far I see is savage and IS gear. The rest is kinda mid and 2 dungeons are not dyeable. But the cadency of adding new things to cash shop is kinda scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The number of items unique to the cash shop is small compared to the number of items added to the game and rewarded through game play.

    They just stand out in your mind more because you have to go through the cash shop to get them.

    List everything that's been added to the cash shop since start of Endwalker other than the seasonal event items that were in-game rewards in the first place. Then list all the rewards unique to Island Sanctuary that we can earn.

    I bet the numbers aren't too different yet what we get from Island Sanctuary is just a small portion of the overall in-game rewards that have been added. And a lot of those cash shop items are going to be sharing models with items already in the game as well. Having the models already created cuts down the work that has to be done for the cash shop items considerably.

    The game has a sub. Also this expansion has reused a lot of assets for gear. And some people are saying May 24 for next expansion. Not to mention the stretch they did for covid. We have not reached 2 patch per 6 months. But it isn't that far off either. They need more filler if we are going to have such long periods of time between content. And no splitting the patch into small patches doesn't create more content. All it does is dribble the meagre amount out.



    Truth is while cash shop is an easy target. That isn't the problem, the game needs more for monthly sub.
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    I wont be able to help myself,Im commlng in Hot on Twintania if I see a Marie Poppins.Sorry ahead of time :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Friendly reminder that we get cash shop content every month like clockwork
    Square might as well monetize ERP content too. Then they'd really be swimming in cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The only decent mount from IS is the bike, the rest is terrible, meanwhile amazing mounts got added to the store.
    The real content is the alligator of course. Like c'mon now, bike is nothing compared with the flat f**k friday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Friendly reminder that we get cash shop content every month like clockwork but we're blessed with actual gameplay content every 4-4.5 months
    Because a mount or outfit is exactly the same as developing new fights and story scenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Because a mount or outfit is exactly the same as developing new fights and story scenes.
    Hi, I'm not even talking about new content necessarily. We can't even get a moogle event until shit's just absolutely dire. What's the rate on those, like every 9 months or something? Go look at how pretty much any other MMO operates, even the f2p ones have regular events going on to keep players occupied so they don't leave and start the death spiral. We get like 5 hours of content every 4 months. For a game that charges monthly, not at least having beefy monthly events during a content drought is just suspect asf. Look at how excited people are getting over the moogle event, and what even is it? An event where we run old content, to get items that are mostly already in the game, save one earring. This wouldn't take a long time to develop. Why can't we get something like this every month? I mainly edited to clarify that I'm not out here demanding new MSQ chapters monthly or something. Just give people who are caught up something to do that actually lasts, otherwise it's like "why am I paying for this"
    The main point of the part you quoted was optics really. There's someone putting in monthly work for our monthly sub, but it's reflected in the cash shop because this game's basically a cash cow that gets updated 3 times a year.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 04-21-2023 at 07:29 PM.
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    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
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    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Hi, I'm not even talking about new content necessarily. We can't even get a moogle event until shit's just absolutely dire. What's the rate on those, like every 9 months or something? Go look at how pretty much any other MMO operates, even the f2p ones have regular events going on to keep players occupied so they don't leave and start the death spiral. We get like 5 hours of content every 4 months. For a game that charges monthly, not at least having beefy monthly events during a content drought is just suspect asf. Look at how excited people are getting over the moogle event, and what even is it? An event where we run old content, to get items that are mostly already in the game, save one earring. This wouldn't take a long time to develop. Why can't we get something like this every month? I mainly edited to clarify that I'm not out here demanding new MSQ chapters monthly or something. Just give people who are caught up something to do that actually lasts, otherwise it's like "why am I paying for this"
    The main point of the part you quoted was optics really. There's someone putting in monthly work for our monthly sub, but it's reflected in the cash shop because this game's basically a cash cow that gets updated 3 times a year.
    And yet you have people saying that the game is "thriving" and on an upwards trend, logging in the game literally shows most people afk in Limsa doing absolutely nothing, and those are the people left after the 25% that already left over the past 3 months according to steamcharts.

    In the 75% left, there are bots in thousands, alts accounts, people afking in Limsa every single day as they watch youtube or play other games, people doing ERP or going to venue, hanging out, and a tiny minority doing actual content, simply because this game absolutely has 0 content to do, it's an absolute bore, but you'll always have people defending the lack of content and even when it does come out, the mediocrity of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Hi, I'm not even talking about new content necessarily. We can't even get a moogle event until shit's just absolutely dire. What's the rate on those, like every 9 months or something? Go look at how pretty much any other MMO operates, even the f2p ones have regular events going on to keep players occupied so they don't leave and start the death spiral. We get like 5 hours of content every 4 months. For a game that charges monthly, not at least having beefy monthly events during a content drought is just suspect asf. Look at how excited people are getting over the moogle event, and what even is it? An event where we run old content, to get items that are mostly already in the game, save one earring. This wouldn't take a long time to develop. Why can't we get something like this every month? I mainly edited to clarify that I'm not out here demanding new MSQ chapters monthly or something. Just give people who are caught up something to do that actually lasts, otherwise it's like "why am I paying for this"
    The main point of the part you quoted was optics really. There's someone putting in monthly work for our monthly sub, but it's reflected in the cash shop because this game's basically a cash cow that gets updated 3 times a year.
    There have been a couple threads about making the moogle events more regular and if that's possible it's not a bad idea. But for the moment their pattern has been that we get one about a month before a major patch comes out and they last until maint for that patch. So it's not an event not happening until anything is dire. It's the normal pattern for these that they've started following.
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