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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    What gives you the impression that mounts should be account wide by default? Players are not forced to create alts by any means, and they create them on their own volition. Also, elaborate on how cash shop mounts are a scam.

    You see, scams are typically exploits from con-artists who trick people into thinking they need something they actually don't. Examples would be diet pills, get-rich-quick schemes, masters degrees, and needing to watch the Captain Marvel movie before viewing Endgame. There is nothing that should make you feel like you need an umbrella mount, especially with the view point you have being it's just a "pod animation". You could just simply shrug your shoulders and move on. But instead you feel compelled to jump on a dog pile of the dev team because the game in its current state oppresses you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    If I used memes instead of my own words to make arguments. I probably would have selected something like this. Bravo, sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    You see, scams are...
    The definition of a "scam" is, exactly, "a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation", using an extreme example, if you were to take a piece of yarn and put a pricetag of 10 billion USD on it, then made a real attempt to sell that piece of yarn at a storefront, it'd be a scam, because the pricetag is deceptive of the item's true value, it'd be an obvious scam, yes, but how well-built the attempt is isn't relevant to the definition.

    In other words, people are calling out 24$ as being an overpriced and attempting to sell it at that price makes it a scam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    The definition of a "scam" is, exactly, "a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation", using an extreme example, if you were to take a piece of yarn and put a pricetag of 10 billion USD on it, then made a real attempt to sell that piece of yarn at a storefront, it'd be a scam, because the pricetag is deceptive of the item's true value, it'd be an obvious scam, yes, but how well-built the attempt is isn't relevant to the definition.

    In other words, people are calling out 24$ as being an overpriced and attempting to sell it at that price makes it a scam.
    They're telling you exactly what you're getting for your $24. There's no fraud or deception involved. By your own definition, whether you think it's worth that price or not, it's not a scam.
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    ahahahahaha

    this thread just gets better and better
    I guess this is how we do content in these trying times
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    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    What gives you the impression that mounts should be account wide by default? Players are not forced to create alts by any means, and they create them on their own volition. Also, elaborate on how cash shop mounts are a scam.

    You see, scams are typically exploits from con-artists who trick people into thinking they need something they actually don't. Examples would be diet pills, get-rich-quick schemes, masters degrees, and needing to watch the Captain Marvel movie before viewing Endgame. There is nothing that should make you feel like you need an umbrella mount, especially with the view point you have being it's just a "pod animation". You could just simply shrug your shoulders and move on. But instead you feel compelled to jump on a dog pile of the dev team because the game in its current state oppresses you.
    What gives YOU the impressions, things shouldnt be an account wide? Its DIGITAL product for real money in a monhly paid game. We should kinda expect a PREMIUM services for our money at that point. You know, some people play on different datacenters. Like EU/NA.

    So basically you are telling the lie. Because region-free DC visit is still not a thing, as a EU player IM FORCED to play different character if I want to play with my NA friends.

    You can stop defending multi dollar indie company. Stop being fricking consumer to the bone. Bad systems shouldnt be allowed because you like the rest of the game. Bad systems should be fixed to make the whole game better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    What gives YOU the impressions, things shouldnt be an account wide? Its DIGITAL product for real money in a monhly paid game. We should kinda expect a PREMIUM services for our money at that point. You know, some people play on different datacenters. Like EU/NA.
    Assuming you read before signing a dotted line, you know EXACTLY what you're paying for with your subscription. If you neglect this, it is on you. If you would be so kind to provide the resource to the clause that states that your monthly subscription entitles you to account wide availability of the products you purchase from the cash shop, I would love to see it.

    So basically you are telling the lie. Because region-free DC visit is still not a thing, as a EU player IM FORCED to play different character if I want to play with my NA friends.
    Do you stop being you by playing a different a character in order to group with your friends on a different DC? Sorry, you can't take a word like "forced" out of context and all of a sudden it becomes true. This is not how speech works.

    You can stop defending multi dollar indie company. Stop being fricking consumer to the bone. Bad systems shouldnt be allowed because you like the rest of the game. Bad systems should be fixed to make the whole game better.
    I am simply a paying subscriber. Just like you. I'm not defending multimillion dollar companies. I just happen to know and agree to the terms I've been given. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Because a mount or outfit is exactly the same as developing new fights and story scenes.
    Reminder that you get 5 hours of content for $52 per patch in total sub fees. Yes, we know it’s cheaper than a fancy steak restaurant. Yes, it’s cheaper than going to a strip club. But don’t you think things are a bit off? Oh, of course you don’t. But others don’t agree. The walls will close in just like they did with World of Warcraft. And when all of your friends have unsubscribed, you’re going to be stumbling around asking why. Remember: we told you why, you just didn’t listen.

    Square Enix thrives on complacency. If this is what you want, then it’s all you’re going to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Reminder that you get 5 hours of content for $52 per patch in total sub fees. Yes, we know it’s cheaper than a fancy steak restaurant. Yes, it’s cheaper than going to a strip club. But don’t you think things are a bit off? Oh, of course you don’t. But others don’t agree. The walls will close in just like they did with World of Warcraft. And when all of your friends have unsubscribed, you’re going to be stumbling around asking why. Remember: we told you why, you just didn’t listen.

    Square Enix thrives on complacency. If this is what you want, then it’s all you’re going to get.
    When I feel like I'm not getting my money's worth out of the sub, I'll leave, just like I did WoW and a few other games. My friends are their own people and can make their own decisions. I just can't be bothered to get upset about the cash shop full of optional cosmetics. It's hilarious to me how every time something goes up on the shop, there's another thread about how people are so mad about it.
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    Half this thread is just two lalafells fighting with each other and I'm here for it.
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