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    Turnintino's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    You never inspect people and see them having "Mare Lamentorum"-autotranslate or something like "the moon is beautiful" or "might share code of the moon"? They all talk about plugins. Bans to be handed out? 0
    I don't inspect other players very often, unless I'm interested in their glam; in which case, I'm laser-focused on that, not their search info or whatever. Only mention I ever see of Mare in-game is when a hunt train conductor is directing everyone to the moon for the next mark lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    The rules are there to make sure we all have a fair, fun experience. ToS abuse messes that up for everyone. So, maybe chill with the dystopian comparisons and just play by the rules like the rest of us, okay?
    So how do you expext SE to know if a person has mods on their pc? You want them to put invasive anti-cheat programs on FF14?

    If you do, have fun trying to get them to agree to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    So how do you expext SE to know if a person has mods on their pc? You want them to put invasive anti-cheat programs on FF14?

    If you do, have fun trying to get them to agree to it.
    Well, under Japanese law they can't implement anti-cheat software.

    The only work around is to have the NA/EU/OCE datacenters launch under Square Enix NA to circumvent the Japanese laws of having the game owned by Square Enix JP.

    And at that point, half of the playerbase go back to playing IMVU and the other half complain the game is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Well, under Japanese law they can't implement anti-cheat software.

    The only work around is to have the NA/EU/OCE datacenters launch under Square Enix NA to circumvent the Japanese laws of having the game owned by Square Enix JP.

    And at that point, half of the playerbase go back to playing IMVU and the other half complain the game is dead.
    Can we stop repeating this provably false stuff? Elden Ring has EAC. You know, a japanese game. They are probably too lazy or too incompetent, considering they dont even do basic memory scans which is why all the plugin stuff is not detectable. FF14 is genuinely a side project for square. Trying to come up wit any excuses for all the flaws of the game is just coping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Can we stop repeating this provably false stuff? Elden Ring has EAC. You know, a japanese game. They are probably too lazy or too incompetent, considering they dont even do basic memory scans which is why all the plugin stuff is not detectable. FF14 is genuinely a side project for square. Trying to come up wit any excuses for all the flaws of the game is just coping.
    And who publishes Elden Ring for the western audience?

    Oh look, Namco Bandai Games AMERICA Inc.

    Guess who produces the JP version of the game that doesn't have EAC? Namco Bandai Games JAPAN Inc.

    Imagine that.
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    Player Shinkuno's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    And who publishes Elden Ring for the western audience?

    Oh look, Namco Bandai Games AMERICA Inc.

    Guess who produces the JP version of the game that doesn't have EAC? Namco Bandai Games JAPAN Inc.

    Imagine that.
    JP version is the exact same including EAC... You guys are just scared they put a halt to your modded ERP some day lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    So how do you expext SE to know if a person has mods on their pc? You want them to put invasive anti-cheat programs on FF14?

    If you do, have fun trying to get them to agree to it.
    Well, you see, they don't need an intrusive anti-cheat system. They could for instance, simply send a takedown request for Mare and their servers. They should eliminate these networks that accept money disguised as "donations" to develop software that abuses the Terms of Service.

    Square Enix has become too complacent with not doing anything, it's time for them to step up their game.

    Mare now has 100,000 confirmed accounts:



    How much longer will they allow this blight to rage? We all came here to play Final Fantasy, not VRChat. This isn't meant to be a make your own game experience.
    We need to raise our voices and compel Square Enix to take action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    Well, you see, they don't need an intrusive anti-cheat system. They could for instance, simply send a takedown request for Mare and their servers. They should eliminate these networks that accept money disguised as "donations" to develop software that abuses the Terms of Service.

    Square Enix has become too complacent with not doing anything, it's time for them to step up their game.

    Mare now has 100,000 confirmed accounts:



    How much longer will they allow this blight to rage? We all came here to play Final Fantasy, not VRChat. This isn't meant to be a make your own game experience.
    We need to raise our voices and compel Square Enix to take action.
    bruh lmao what is wrong with you, how does people having fun hurt you this badly ? How unhappy with your life are you that people having fun in a video game looking different than you hurts you this badly ? It literally has no impact on you whatsoever, but the simple fact that people are having fun is just hurting you and you seem to be unable to handle the fact that others can have fun. Too bad for you, it's there to stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    bruh lmao what is wrong with you, how does people having fun hurt you this badly ? How unhappy with your life are you that people having fun in a video game looking different than you hurts you this badly ? It literally has no impact on you whatsoever, but the simple fact that people are having fun is just hurting you and you seem to be unable to handle the fact that others can have fun. Too bad for you, it's there to stay.
    Because having those "ilegal" mods are becoming the standard in the community. Oh you are not using Mare with 2000 mods attached to your character? Yikes you aren't part of the group.

    "Bruh why you don't have mare? Here install this, pay for this, you are missing the true FFXIV Experience bruh"

    Basically RMTs and bots are having fun you know?
    Gill sellers , +18 services etc, there are so many wrong things in this game but SE won't do anything as long they can brag about big numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    Because having those "ilegal" mods are becoming the standard in the community. Oh you are not using Mare with 2000 mods attached to your character? Yikes you aren't part of the group.

    "Bruh why you don't have mare? Here install this, pay for this, you are missing the true FFXIV Experience bruh"

    Basically RMTs and bots are having fun you know?
    Gill sellers , +18 services etc, there are so many wrong things in this game but SE won't do anything as long they can brag about big numbers.
    Dealing with gil sellers is like dealing with a hydra, cut off one head and two more grow back. There isn't an easy way of handling it imo and idiots will still fall for their scams regardless so the funnel of gil isn't really going to end.

    Also, the reality that people seem to ignore is that ERP isn't against the ToS. Is it annoying to look at? Sure, but it's literally in the ToS that encounters like that are fine as long as both parties are consenting and aren't doing it in the middle of Limsa in shout chat. You'd have more wiggle room with reporting if that was the case rather than being done behind closed doors at someone's house.

    I've also never seen Mare become this exclusive group that hates on anyone who doesn't mod but I also don't get involved in that side of things so maybe there's harassment going on daily. *shrug* I've just personally never seen it.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 04-24-2023 at 12:04 AM.

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