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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRedfield2 View Post
    This is why FF13 failed btw, because it reused too many things from FF12...
    wow....ok nevermind the myriad of other problems that FFXIII had such as linearity, plot, and combat system but the reuse of FFXII assets, thats what all the gamers and ign reviewers were focusing on. Get real here.
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    Why on Earth would you EVER start development from literal scratch when you already have a gigantic massive library of assets you can use?? Are you completely insane? Did you want a 6+ year development cycle? Are you one of those people who thinks every game ever needs to have unique-never-before-used assets? For crying out loud, FromSoftware has been reusing assets for YEARS, because that's how an intelligent developer works. All recent Resident Evil games? All re-use assets from 7 and onwards. New assets are always made, but some other stuff just gets reused. That's game development for you. I also think it's insane that you're attempting to judge gameplay, music and dungeons of a 60+ hour game based on a 25 minute showcase. Then you go and show whatever church/temple they're in and call it a Vault copy. Because we've never had a temple-like dungeon ever before in any other Final Fantasy or in gaming, so obviously the only reasonable conclusion is that it's just a copy of The Vault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Why on Earth would you EVER start development from literal scratch when you already have a gigantic massive library of assets you can use?? Are you completely insane? Did you want a 6+ year development cycle? Are you one of those people who thinks every game ever needs to have unique-never-before-used assets? For crying out loud, FromSoftware has been reusing assets for YEARS, because that's how an intelligent developer works. I also think it's insane that you're attempting to judge gameplay, music and dungeons of a 60+ hour game based on a 25 minute showcase.
    /facepalm
    ?
    you never hear about the BILLIONS of complains that Elder Ring reused the same assets and animations from Dark Souls 3?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/c...t_ive_noticed/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    wow....ok nevermind the myriad of other problems that FFXIII had such as linearity, plot, and combat system but the reuse of FFXII assets, thats what all the gamers and ign reviewers were focusing on. Get real here.
    /rolleyes

    ign reviewers are bought and paid and they dont even play the game before reviewing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRedfield2 View Post
    /facepalm

    Thats not the issue. The issue is that this is a new FF game, so the assets should be NEW, not reused. Reusing assets make it feel like a cheap experience...
    why are you playing XIV then when 90% of the assets, cliche's and other stuff are all re-used assets and content from older FF games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRedfield2 View Post
    /rolleyes

    ign reviewers are bought and paid and they dont even play the game before reviewing...
    See I would normally believe that.....


    But you complaining about assets is kiiiinda the exact same thing one of the ign reviewers would be writing in their godawful reviews.






    Something's fishy here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    why are you playing XIV then when 90% of the assets, cliche's and other stuff are all re-used assets and content from older FF games.
    bro i explained the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRedfield2 View Post
    /facepalm

    There's a difference between common FF themes like Moogles and Ifrit and Garuda and spells like Firega, and straight up copying like the font and the music...

    My teacher always say: if you copy your friend's homework, you will fail the class and get caught eventually... play stupid games win stupid prizes
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRedfield2 View Post
    you never hear about the BILLIONS of complains that Elder Ring reused the same assets and animations from Dark Souls 3?
    Nope, first of all because they're not billions and you're just using that word arbitrarily for shock value and actually means nothing. And second, because only insane people complain about such a common practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    name: ChrisRedfield2

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    character: that same generic highlander

    post topic: controversial comparisons

    Nope, nothing to see here.
    No but he's just reusing assets which is why his threads fail. Getting pretty desperate if you ask me maybe bumping old threads of his is a better idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRedfield2 View Post
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    Aside from what others have pointed out regarding the efficiency of re-using and then editing some assets, this is normal in general, used frequently in the FF series in particular, and something the general fanbase enjoys. I find it amusing that you mentioned Liquid Flame without pointing out (or perhaps realizing) that it first appeared as a boss in FFV. Other characters that have appeared in multiple FF's springing right to mind are Gilgamesh (FFV and FFIX) and Gogo (FFV and FFVI), not to mention all of the summons/espers/eidolons/primals/etc. that are a staple of the series and appear in practically every FF game from FFIV onwards. It's what connects the FF series and makes us smile.

    Music "re-use" is also common. In the FF series, certain tunes like the Prelude and Prologue (now Main Theme) appear in most of the games. Other times, snippets of songs serve as inspiration for others (check out Relm's Theme from FFVI and then "Eyes on Me" from FFVIII). That happens outside gaming, too. Check out Hans Zimmer basing the main theme for Pirates of the Caribbean off of part of his Gladiator soundtrack.

    In all, having some reused assets is in no way whatsoever mutually exclusive with also having "brand new" content.
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