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  1. #11
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    Bladedance87's Avatar
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    Yureka Light
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    Lich
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bladedance87 View Post
    How about you keep the NN and you can have your board? Dont see why Servers with a good NN shouldnt miss out just because other NNs suck. Lich has a great NN
    Oops i mean "should" damn how do i edit my posts? Dont see any buttons for edit
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  2. #12
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    Lleu Macnia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bladedance87 View Post
    Oops i mean "should" damn how do i edit my posts? Dont see any buttons for edit
    Edit button is right next to the green arrow reply button.
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  3. #13
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    Khara Relanah
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    The fact that only some NNs are problem children is proof that the problem is not with the system, but rather with the people running it. NN isn't perfect, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. What we need is more GM oversight.
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  4. #14
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    The only fix for NN is to make mentor restrictions harder so that only those people who are knowledgeable enough if their respective mentor aspects will be able to actually mentor new players.

    If the mentor had an aptitude test related to specific branch, 90% of mentors would fail immediately.

    'solo combat test' for battle mentors.
    'expert crafting & collectables test' for trade mentors.

    Congratulations, you now have mentors that actually know what they are doing.
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  5. #15
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Honestly it's a real good suggestion that I hope is taken into consideration.
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  6. #16
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    If the mentor had an aptitude test related to specific branch, 90% of mentors would fail immediately.

    'solo combat test' for battle mentors.
    To be fair, the level 90 role quests do have tests. You do have to heal in the healer role quest, you can't just do your normal thing of spamming DPS and not paying attention to tank busters and incoming damage. You do have to use "interrupt" on a tank. I remember the DPS role quest made me actually do dodging and mechanics instead of greeding.

    But I imagine with enough persistence, someone who wasn't able to do these things would find a way to cheese it. Because this is FFXIV and people find a way to cheese things usually.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    The only fix for NN is to make mentor restrictions harder so that only those people who are knowledgeable enough if their respective mentor aspects will be able to actually mentor new players.

    If the mentor had an aptitude test related to specific branch, 90% of mentors would fail immediately.

    'solo combat test' for battle mentors.
    'expert crafting & collectables test' for trade mentors.

    Congratulations, you now have mentors that actually know what they are doing.
    The problem with most bad mentors isn't lack of knowledge, its bad attitude. Short of interviewing everyone who gets a crown, there's no fix for this.
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  8. #18
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    The problem with most bad mentors isn't lack of knowledge, its bad attitude. Short of interviewing everyone who gets a crown, there's no fix for this.
    This is also true, but the # of total mentors would drop drastically making it very obvious who the good/bad mentors are.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    This is also true, but the # of total mentors would drop drastically making it very obvious who the good/bad mentors are.
    Your idea to make all mentors clear the latest savage raids will not weed out "good" mentors from "bad" mentors. You're arbitrarily gatekeeping people who actually have the attitude and desire to help from reaching a few hundred sprouts who could use a friendly face. You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a mentor is. We're not here to be 100% completionist masters who understand each and every instance down to the second. We're here to be a welcoming and helpful friend to new and returning players to get them up to speed and lend a hand when asked.

    I'm sorry for whatever bad experiences you had that give you such an awful vendetta against anyone with a crown next to your name, but your tendency to get heated over every little thing makes you honestly seem like you're trolling at times.
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    Last edited by Dikatis; 04-18-2023 at 11:34 AM.

  10. #20
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    Dixie Bell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikatis View Post
    Your idea to make all mentors clear the latest savage raids will not weed out "good" mentors from "bad" mentors. You're arbitrarily gatekeeping people who actually have the attitude and desire to help from reaching a few hundred sprouts who could use a friendly face. You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a mentor is. We're not here to be 100% completionist masters who understand each and every instance down to the second. We're here to be a welcoming and helpful friend to new and returning players to get them up to speed and lend a hand when asked.

    I'm sorry for whatever bad experiences you had that give you such an awful vendetta against anyone with a crown next to your name, but your tendency to get heated over every little thing makes you honestly seem like you're trolling at times.
    I would rather get combat related advice from somebody who knows how to play the game, and can clear a current raid tier, over some guy who sits in limsa all day talking in NN like its IMVU dating simulator.

    Go into NN and ask some of the Trade Mentors any questions about expert crafting, and watch them throw out misinformation 9 times out of 10 because they have never done it once in their entire life.

    It's a bad system, and the filters need to be updated so people cant just get it for a symbol next to their name.
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