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    I feel like the "it's time to move on" argument is silly defensiveness of the game. When the story focus is done with, the glaring issues of the game reveal themselves easily. Let's be honest, unless you make the game your life/job by submitting to the raiding paradigm the combat of the game is pretty bland at this point. As someone into crafting and gathering (and by extension housing) as well as access to social things even I can acknowledge those are bandaids for meh gameplay.

    Though for the record I acknolwedge it's a difficult problem maintaining a popular MMO that needs to cater to casuals who aren't good, casual players, hardcore players, etc. and still meet financial goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I feel like the "it's time to move on" argument is silly defensiveness of the game. When the story focus is done with, the glaring issues of the game reveal themselves easily. Let's be honest, unless you make the game your life/job by submitting to the raiding paradigm the combat of the game is pretty bland at this point. As someone into crafting and gathering (and by extension housing) as well as access to social things even I can ackowledge those are bandaids for meh gameplay.
    Or....life is short and there are many other games or things to experience than just FFXIV. I take breaks when I'm bored and done with the game's content, sometimes for over a year and let the patches pile up. I don't create a list of all of the game's content and explain how I don't like any of it and then just hope for ???????? (I don't even know what OP wants out of a game) so I can keep playing.

    Other games, some of which I spent 5 to 10 years on and spent $15K+ IRL on, just ran their course and I moved on permanently. Other games I bought and only played a few hours before deciding it's not for me. Not really about feeling the need to white knight this or any game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Or....life is short
    Man, how the recent years have been, feels like life is way too goddang long lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Man, how the recent years have been, feels like life is way too goddang long lol.
    I'll say, how long have we been stuck in the year 2020?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Or....life is short and there are many other games or things to experience than just FFXIV. I take breaks when I'm bored and done with the game's content, sometimes for over a year and let the patches pile up. I don't create a list of all of the game's content and explain how I don't like any of it and then just hope for ???????? (I don't even know what OP wants out of a game) so I can keep playing.

    Other games, some of which I spent 5 to 10 years on and spent $15K+ IRL on, just ran their course and I moved on permanently. Other games I bought and only played a few hours before deciding it's not for me. Not really about feeling the need to white knight this or any game.
    I think your mileage varies depending on if you're an older player or not. I haven't leveled a second or third job until recently and I have just found (perhaps bc I was coming from a year of BLM) jobs feel samey and safe and the majority of content is too easy.

    The real truth is that XIV is a game for story, RP, or very high end content for limit periods. Everything else feels pretty safe. It's kind of weird too because their storytelling actually does take risks and is very satisfying (imo).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I think your mileage varies depending on if you're an older player or not. I haven't leveled a second or third job until recently and I have just found (perhaps bc I was coming from a year of BLM) jobs feel samey and safe and the majority of content is too easy.

    The real truth is that XIV is a game for story, RP, or very high end content for limit periods. Everything else feels pretty safe. It's kind of weird too because their storytelling actually does take risks and is very satisfying (imo).
    I only just got around in 2023 (starting in 2014 with many breaks) to levelling more than my typical 2 jobs per expansion and while there is some overlap, there is enough little nuances to keep things interesting to me. It's way better than my other MMO (Elder Scrolls Online) where every dps character plays almost exaclty same (Buff, Buff, dot, dot, dot, spammable, repeat) and often with cross-class skills that are actually the same.

    Content that I choose to do is easy but just challenging enough that I'm engaged, aside from most of the early ARR dungeons and Crystal Tower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I only just got around in 2023 (starting in 2014 with many breaks) to levelling more than my typical 2 jobs per expansion and while there is some overlap, there is enough little nuances to keep things interesting to me. It's way better than my other MMO (Elder Scrolls Online) where every dps character plays almost exaclty same (Buff, Buff, dot, dot, dot, spammable, repeat) and often with cross-class skills that are actually the same.

    Content that I choose to do is easy but just challenging enough that I'm engaged, aside from most of the early ARR dungeons and Crystal Tower.


    Maybe it depends on being an MMO player then since I'm not that. I got into XIV bc I I like FF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I feel like the "it's time to move on" argument is silly defensiveness of the game. When the story focus is done with, the glaring issues of the game reveal themselves easily. Let's be honest, unless you make the game your life/job by submitting to the raiding paradigm the combat of the game is pretty bland at this point. As someone into crafting and gathering (and by extension housing) as well as access to social things even I can acknowledge those are bandaids for meh gameplay.

    Though for the record I acknolwedge it's a difficult problem maintaining a popular MMO that needs to cater to casuals who aren't good, casual players, hardcore players, etc. and still meet financial goals.
    i only want to touch on one thing. im not defending the game. the op made it quite clear they aren't getting anything out of the game. if you can take a hiatus and come back and still not want to do anything then its time to move on to another game that will give you what you seek. keeping a active sub on one that bores you to this point just is a bad use of finances all around. not to mention yoshi p himself literally said its ok to take breaks from the game lol. even if said op got friends to play with, i have to question how long till they get bored again. just seems easier to drop the sub and play some other games. come back down the road and see if anything interests them after new content has had a chance to accumulate
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    Hi just an update, I took notice of the comments recommending a bigger group of friends and the comments of just moving on. Im going to try the former and if it doesnt work its best I consider the latter.

    I joined a new fc yesterday with people who seem nice and actually share other interests with like genshin, destiny and other games... but logging in is still kind of hard. We'll see how it goes.

    I also appreciate that this post didnt contain as much hostility as most of the others in these forums, let's try keep it like that.

    Thanks for all the advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    Hi just an update, I took notice of the comments recommending a bigger group of friends and the comments of just moving on. Im going to try the former and if it doesnt work its best I consider the latter.

    I joined a new fc yesterday with people who seem nice and actually share other interests with like genshin, destiny and other games... but logging in is still kind of hard. We'll see how it goes.

    I also appreciate that this post didnt contain as much hostility as most of the others in these forums, let's try keep it like that.

    Thanks for all the advice.
    Good luck with the new FC. I hope it makes a difference for you.
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