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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroichirou View Post
    Blah Blah Blah is all i'm reading pretty much , the game's algorithm is so screwed up at the moment you'll get pretty much the same results no matter how much of the "best" gear you have, i've sometimes pulled in on a crit on moogles over 1k on the king (i use mnk af+ GC weapons) , meanwhile another mnk using avengers triple melded str tier IV + 3 pieces of darklight crited under 1k , then sometimes i'd crit under 1k and he'd crit over 1k , so really all this back n forth yippy yapping is pretty much pointless till 2.0, when the code is greatly improved and stats actually do what they're supposed to do, so basically if you can go for darklight stuff by all means go ahead and go for it , and if you cant or wont go after darklight for whatever the reason, mnk af or melded gear works too. As long as you aren't butt naked and you are using 45+ gear i dont see a problem. (if any of you feel insulted by my comment please take that feeling and slap yourself with it , it wont do any good here)
    While i am not going to dictate how you wants to play, but i can assure you, you will probably never will kill Garuda or any dungeon speedrun, and if you somehow did, it will probably because others carry your weight if you thinks gears doesn't do anything.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroichirou View Post
    of course but not by a lot , if the stats would work how they were meant to work then i agree melded + darklight would have a big advantage over avg gear , but you need either really deep pockets or a heck of a lot of time to get both i really dont see the need to after it, but thats just me, by all means feel free to drop 4-5 mil a piece or spend 4-5 months getting a single piece of gear.
    While I don't main MNK, I have single slotted materia gear on it, good enough to take down MM (Going to improve it to get 17 minute speed run), a MNK I played with who did have double/triple melded gear on his Monk had dramatically higher DPS than me according to the parser.

    If all MNK's were like him, Mizer would go down without phase 1 even ending. So yes, getting your stats in is a major thing.

    Before then I could of semi-agreed with you before they fixed the Critical Rate/Attack, which really has an effect now when stacked. On my DRG, I have Critical Attack placed in many areas along with STR/PIE, and my DPS was dramatically higher. Pulling easy 1k+ Doomspikes on Princess in CC.

    For jobs like DRG and WAR, it was hard to tell much DPS before because Crit wasn't working the way it should and they didn't base themselves off burst damage like MNK and BLM did. Maybe this is where you are coming from. But ever since the fix, it is pretty ignorant to say that gear doesn't matter.
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  3. #33
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    I am using grand company flame belt body and wrist for 3way gear bonus. 42strength on gloves darklight eyepatch. Af boots.
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    Last edited by syntaxlies; 06-26-2012 at 06:10 AM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    While i am not going to dictate how you wants to play, but i can assure you, you will probably never will kill Garuda or any dungeon speedrun, and if you somehow did, it will probably because others carry your weight if you thinks gears doesn't do anything.
    I'm not interested in doing dungeons (speedruns) , primal fights or top tier gear at all at least until 2.0 comes out and everything works as it should besides why bother getting top tier gear now when its all going to be outdated come 2.0? , i'm more interested in getting everything to 50, and so what if some ppl carry my weight at one point or another i'll be carrying someone else's weight , nor will i have a problem with it like you do, what everyone seems to forget is that your own weight got carried by someone else at one point in your gaming life. /bows
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    Last edited by Hiroichirou; 06-23-2012 at 05:43 AM.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroichirou View Post
    I'm not interested in doing dungeons (speedruns) , primal fights or top tier gear at all at least until 2.0 comes out and everything works as it should besides why bother getting top tier gear now when its all going to be outdated come 2.0? , i'm more interested in getting everything to 50, and so what if some ppl carry my weight at one point or another i'll be carrying someone else's weight , nor will i have a problem with it like you do, what everyone seems to forget is that your own weight got carried by someone else at one point in your gaming life. /bows
    You shouldn't be playing MMO's then if this is how you think, gear will always get outdated. The difference between us and you is we seek to improve ourselves so we are not considered a burden to the party. You seem pretty content on being the burden of the party and I feel sorry for those who have to carry your weight.

    Also, haven't done any of that stuff? No wonder why you don't think gear is important.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroichirou View Post
    I'm not interested in doing dungeons (speedruns) , primal fights or top tier gear at all at least until 2.0 comes out and everything works as it should besides why bother getting top tier gear now when its all going to be outdated come 2.0? , i'm more interested in getting everything to 50, and so what if some ppl carry my weight at one point or another i'll be carrying someone else's weight , nor will i have a problem with it like you do, what everyone seems to forget is that your own weight got carried by someone else at one point in your gaming life. /bows
    Seriously? That is one of the worst philosophies a MMO player could have. You work to contribute the most to your team, not to carry them or be carried by them. That is what team is all about. If you really think you'll "owe" getting Darklight gear to the 7 other people in your party more than yourself then you got some major self-image problem or you realize you're not pulling your own weight. Probably not worth saying much more than that at this point.
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  7. #37
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    Some of the darklight is pretty sweet for monk though the corselet remains a distant dream for me. I use the eyepatch and calligae but don't wear the gloves. Having a friendly crafter make things go kaboom for a while until you get the gear you want is pretty much the best way to go now. Unless you have that spiffy +120 crit att body from grid. Double melded gloves and felt trousers are obvious choices. For the bodypiece I was using the storm sergeants tabard but I've switched to the gryphonskin tunic double melded with crit attack now. It's a relatively inexpensive piece to have made and melded, mine cost me 360k in mats so having one or two go kaboom before success shouldn't be too painful.
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  8. #38
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    Lol you people don't understand what i'm saying, what i'm saying is that i dont see a point in getting gear until 2.0 and beyond , any gear that you get now is going to get outdated m and so what if you think that my way of playing is the worst i play my own way you don't like it too bad by all means come and comment on how bad my play style is you're just making me lol more with each one of your comments and looks like i hit a little nerve with my last comment if i did that proves my point that you did get carried at one point in your gaming life.

    Velhart , reread my comment and stop seeing it as an insult and try to make sense of it , my message is in just half the message the top half right up to 2.0? , the bottom half is just filler because its a fact that everyone at their gaming life got carried by someone else to not acknowledge that is ignorant , its not like you started a character on here with all garuda, moogle and ifrit weapons and full darklight.
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    then whats the point in playing, just wait 2.0 lol
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroichirou View Post
    i'm more interested in getting everything to 50, and so what if some ppl carry my weight at one point or another i'll be carrying someone else's weight
    Will be screwed at lvl cap increase and wont be able to carry anyone's weight, not even his own
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