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    Kaizlu's Avatar
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    Schneizel Alstreim
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Do you really and honestly think that a casual gamer can breeze through all of that based solely on luck? Because they'd have to be pretty damn lucky.
    No, of course not.

    Perhaps, casual isn't the correct word for the relic quest. I think "accessible" is the word, in a way that you can only speed up the process by 1) grinding content or 2) getting lucky. In that way, players who have a wife, kids, lover, high school crush, two business and also go to school can still have the chance at progressing even if they do the content a few hours per week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Likewise, by the exact same token, hardcore Johnny could get lucky and get stuff in a day, while casual Jimmy could be unlucky and get absolutely nothing. That argument doesn't really hold up well. It's lucky vs unlucky which is an entirely different issue in its own right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Limonconcon View Post
    Well but chances are that more hardcore johnny's will have relics then Casual Jimmys
    This relic weapons feel more like AF weapons anyways... They shouldnt be that hard to get.
    You both are correct. Luck/RNG is the whole point, but think beyond that - why do we have it? That's what I was saying in my other post: perhaps it's not only to prolong content, but to make it accessible enough to a) be done a lot of times (short re-entry timers, content not lasting that much) and b) that once you clear the content it doesn't matter if you play 3 hours a week or 3 hours a day - you can still make some progress.
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    Last edited by Kaizlu; 06-21-2012 at 06:51 AM. Reason: Deleted most of quoted post so people think I'm ignoring it