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    magitekLuna's entire post history at this point is starting to sound like "I want YoshiP to personally break into every newbie's house and shoot them in the head for daring to inconvenience me".

    No, being seriously, while I agree the ways people exploit roulette is a problem, there is still a strong point that even in a perfect world where everyone has every single raid roulette unlocked, the bottom denominator would always be the most common by a wide margin, by nature of being the bottom denominator, if you removed CT, Shadows of Mnach would be most common, and you'd get people complaining that they've done Dun Scaith 200 times already and they are tired of it, and what you do then? every roulette has this issue, 50/60/70/80 and leveling roulette are predominantly ARR content, normal roulettes is predominantly Alexander, there isn't really a way to give you the fix you want, it'd be just a temporary solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    magitekLuna's entire post history at this point is starting to sound like "I want YoshiP to personally break into every newbie's house and shoot them in the head for daring to inconvenience me".

    No, being seriously, while I agree the ways people exploit roulette is a problem, there is still a strong point that even in a perfect world where everyone has every single raid roulette unlocked, the bottom denominator would always be the most common by a wide margin, by nature of being the bottom denominator, if you removed CT, Shadows of Mnach would be most common, and you'd get people complaining that they've done Dun Scaith 200 times already and they are tired of it, and what you do then? every roulette has this issue, 50/60/70/80 and leveling roulette are predominantly ARR content, normal roulettes is predominantly Alexander, there isn't really a way to give you the fix you want, it'd be just a temporary solution.
    you are totally wrong here. if any thing i one of the people that will love to see yoshi move on from running ff14.i don't see him as someone that can fix things as all the problems we have now are from him. now i don't think he is bad or any thing . by move on i will like him to run SE.
    as to newbie's point, they are in no way shape or form are the problem.
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    Last edited by magitekLuna; 04-07-2023 at 05:49 PM.

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    Im still in the mindset that msq roulette should be organized into all dungeons and raids that are part of the msq and not just the measily 3 ARR instances.

    and yeah this also includes CT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Im still in the mindset that msq roulette should be organized into all dungeons and raids that are part of the msq and not just the measily 3 ARR instances.

    and yeah this also includes CT
    I totally agree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Im still in the mindset that msq roulette should be organized into all dungeons and raids that are part of the msq and not just the measily 3 ARR instances.

    and yeah this also includes CT
    An MSQ roulette that includes anything and everything related to the MSQ wouldn't work because what you get is the old Castrum/Prae routine on steroids. You're mixing in content that takes 3 minutes to clear, up to 30 minutes to clear. Also considering that you're mixing in 4-man, 8-man, and 24-man content; it's the 4-man stuff that will get filled and pop constantly. It would kill the CT raids, which cannot happen. This is also why the CT raids can't get lumped with the MSQ roulette at all. However, you could place other 4-man content into this roulette for sure but we kind of already have leveling for that.

    I've said it every time this topic comes up, there are two things that need to happen to fix this. The first is to de-incentivize the naked queues, and this is done by scaling the content up so its run time is on par with the longest 24-man clear time. The second is to divide up the alliance raids: 50/60, 70/80, and then max level. This will create more roulettes, and to that I say, "big flippin' deal" The same concept can be applied to all content in the game including raids and trials, which quite honestly need it done to them as well. I'm not only sick of CT, I am also sick of getting Gilgamesh, King Moggle Mog, and anything Alexander that isn't Cruise Chaser.

    The older roulettes are incentivized by making the rewards for these higher than the newer ones.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 04-07-2023 at 10:10 AM.

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    Because spending 15 minutes instead of 45 in old content is based.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaudeHerel View Post
    Because spending 15 minutes instead of 45 in old content is based.
    No!

    If you don't like spending 45 minutes in old content YOU HATE THE GAME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratini View Post
    No!

    If you don't like spending 45 minutes in old content YOU HATE THE GAME.

    HERE-HERE
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    The reason CT won't go away is that it is necessary for MSQ. And if CT went away, there would just be the "next one" (whatever it would be) that would become the favorite. If it was Syrcus Tower, players would just open up Syrcus Tower and leave it at that as long as they can so they keep getting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    The reason CT won't go away is that it is necessary for MSQ.
    *Looks at prae and castrum*

    Changes can be made!
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