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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Except that it is an alternate version, and there's nothing in FFXIV's lore that says it uses ice, thunder, or fire.

    Where it connects to Conjurer is that our one example of a GEO who isn't just a Feng Shui consultant uses a Conjurer's 1-handed wand and uses water, stone, and wind spells.

    There are three reasons I'm against having a geomancer job. The first is that as presented to us so far in FFXIV, the job is not unique enough to stand on its own and this game already has a problem with homogenizing everything that I really don't want to continue. The second is that there is only 1 living practitioner of the art in the entire game and he is tied up in another job's storyline. And thirdly, it can be assumed that there are also no job stones for geomancers because the art has basically died out, with the successors having to find things out by reading scrolls or misinterpreting geomancy altogether.
    I didn't say they use ice, thunder, or fire in XIV. I said they do in other games. You are correct in stating that they use water, earth, and wind magic, however that doesn't necessarily make them conjurors. As per your point about a character who uses a wand and casts those 3 elements, I've already noted that when a class that wasn't in the game has made an appearance, the devs had to use another class as a base. Yet the real class turned out to be different once actually implemented into the game. This is neither the only, nor was it the last time that a class that didn't exist had to use another as a base and if it gets added, it will be changed, as has been done before.

    Your point about the last living geomancer, there is a discrepancy as that is not actually true, or at the very least it's the last living humanoid practitioner. The Swallow's Compass dungeon has strong geomancer themes and features enemies that are most certainly not conjurors. They are based on traditional geomancers as they do not wield wands/canes, but bells as weapons. They do cast earth, water, and wind magic, but in the form of terrain and weather spells like a traditional geomancer. It is also said that Seiryu is the god of geomancy and he's definitely not dead either.

    All that aside, it wouldn't really take that much to implement GEO into the game as a playable class. There's really no need to rework CNJ and its lore. If they wanted to make some changes with the job and lore to distinguish it further from conjury, they'd only really need to change some lines of text, they've done it before. It's been one of the most heavily requested classes since StB. So there's a possibility it may be added, but that's not a guarantee either.
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    Last edited by Firework; 04-10-2023 at 11:53 AM.