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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    no i think it will take some time. the moset soon i think we can hope to see it be in 7.1-7.3 time frame. as for it to be easy, not the most hard thing in the work but take times as there lots of things to do.
    Yes, ignore every concern everyone has, slap a long timeframe on it (~2 -3 years in this case) and say, yup, that is all that is needed. No. Sorry to burst your bubble, but again, it isn't going to happen. Ignoring all the other issues, who is going to work on it? the battle devs? They are busy balancing current jobs, working on the new actions for 7.0, balancing that, reworking DRG and AST etc. whilst also working on balancing the encounters to jobs and their kits/stats. So, at the moment, realistically, a lot of their time is already taken up, which means less to go towards you little fantasy. So really, the earliest they can realistically start is after expansion launch, however, at that time, they are looking at job performance and adjusting ready for the savage encounter and making the last few bits of prep for that. Just with that alone, we have reduced your 2-3 year plan to 4-12 months and even in those 4-12 months, they still have to work on new content, who knows about a new deep dungeon/exploration zone along with other potential changes to jobs that might come down the line and even now, looking at 8.0.

    Even just looking at Dev time, it is not feasible and not cost effective to do when there is already a perfectly good system in place and remember, this has not even touched upon the various issues that would come with such a concept that you keep choosing to ignore.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Yes, ignore every concern everyone has, slap a long timeframe on it (~2 -3 years in this case) and say, yup, that is all that is needed. No. Sorry to burst your bubble, but again, it isn't going to happen. Ignoring all the other issues, who is going to work on it? the battle devs? They are busy balancing current jobs, working on the new actions for 7.0, balancing that, reworking DRG and AST etc. whilst also working on balancing the encounters to jobs and their kits/stats. So, at the moment, realistically, a lot of their time is already taken up, which means less to go towards you little fantasy. So really, the earliest they can realistically start is after expansion launch, however, at that time, they are looking at job performance and adjusting ready for the savage encounter and making the last few bits of prep for that. Just with that alone, we have reduced your 2-3 year plan to 4-12 months and even in those 4-12 months, they still have to work on new content, who knows about a new deep dungeon/exploration zone along with other potential changes to jobs that might come down the line and even now, looking at 8.0.

    Even just looking at Dev time, it is not feasible and not cost effective to do when there is already a perfectly good system in place and remember, this has not even touched upon the various issues that would come with such a concept that you keep choosing to ignore.
    the same people that do balance now do it then as well. as well why you care what devs do what? do SE care how you get the money to pay for the game?
    how i ignore the concern when no one bring anything real. saying "well it be long and hard so don't do it" is not a concern .
    in the system we get now what is the point of leveling up when in 90% of the game you wont have a way to use the skills from leveling up?
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    Last edited by magitekLuna; 04-07-2023 at 07:47 PM.

  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    the same people that do balance now do it then as well. as well why you care what devs do what? do SE care how you get the money to pay for the game?
    how i ignore the concern when no one bring anything real. saying "well it be long and hard so don't do it" is not a concern .
    in the system we get now what is the point of leveling up when in 90% of the game you wont have a way to use the skills from leveling up?
    They will not have time to do it, that was the whole point.

    Just because you do not see the issues as 'real' issues, does not mean they are things you can just ignore. I can say your issue is not a 'real' issue and ignore it in the same vein. Plenty of issues have been bought up, not just from the balancing of damage, but mitigation and healing kits along with other less tangible points. Again, you are just ignoring them because they go against your narrative. Apply some critical thinking and actually think about the issues people bring up, why they are causing an issue and if there is any feasible way to balance around them.

    The other extreme is having everything unlocked at the start and having no character growth at all. The point of levelling is to give you the tools slowly over time so that you can learn how to use them and not feel overwhelmed at having everything thrown at you at once. You might be someone who doesn't mind that, however, that is not how the game was built.
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    so ....
    how much longer are we going to take this lazy way?
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    However long the game continues to operate, most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    However long the game continues to operate, most likely.
    well we the players can force a chamge
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    well we the players can force a chamge
    Buy SE. I'm sure it works
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Buy SE. I'm sure it works
    Good idea, then the devs themselves can can tell them how impossible it would be, for them to just ignore it again anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Good idea, then the devs themselves can can tell them how impossible it would be, for them to just ignore it again anyway.
    why you take the devs for the most incompetent ones ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    why you take the devs for the most incompetent ones ever?
    Sorry, impossible was probably the wrong word. However, it has already been stated multiple times why it is not worth pursuing, and again, just because you don't want to see the multitude of problems, does not mean they do not exist and would would not need to be dealt with.

    So, I will replace impossible with, not worth it/not realistic.
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