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  1. #21
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    I honestly just want the rewards. I hate the content. I'm level 38, but I, for the life of me, cannot stomach kill grinding anymore. What do I do? What should I do?
    If you are not up for it, find something else or simply take a break from it.
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  2. #22
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    I have to some degree. A lot of it is harder for me because guides are just walls of text, and I get overwhelmed. I have to slowly learn stuff, but then when I do, I remember it for a really long time. I need someone to really help kinda guide me through Eureka. That's a tough ask. The majority of people aren't that selfless, and I'm not going to force someone to help me. I wish I was like everyone else, and I could just open that pdf up and knock it out, but I can't.

    Hell, I didn't learn highend crafting until someone extended the olive branch and brought it down to my level. And now I help my FC mates with it.

    I'm a lost cause. I know this, but this is me trying to learn.

    It may not seem like it, but I genuinely need help.
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  3. #23
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    I'd be ok with kill grinding if the xp wasn't so terrible. Even with potions of harmony and the one buff from the sprite thingy, I just feel like what I am doing isn't worth the time invested. Like I do a whole set of logs and kill like 180 things, and I barely get two levels.
    I am personally fine with this pace and I was when I tried 11 before 14 released as well. It is trying to replicate the pace you might level long ago in a game like 11 and if you didn't like 11 either, it just proves that the content isn't really aimed at you.

    However, there are ways to get around it as others have said and that includes the challenge log and NMs when other people are there to spawn and farm them.

    There is some body gear you can buy on the market board or by exchanging an item from the market board with the NPC next to Eureka, which helps make you more powerful. You can use food and then try to locate an Elemental, which gives you an automatic heal and stats and experience for 1 hour.

    Don't forget to use your magia board correctly. If you rotate the points to the same element as the enemy it increases defense, whereas if you rotate the points to the opposite element it increases damage dealt and you need to decide which is needed more in the moment. Sometimes you can get overwhelmed and need to go defense.

    You can get two extra magia board points in Pyros and Hydatos respectively if you are willing to buy the necessary items from the market board (they are usually expensive). If you use these, you can always have some in defense while putting the rest offense, or the reverse.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    I have to some degree. A lot of it is harder for me because guides are just walls of text, and I get overwhelmed. I have to slowly learn stuff, but then when I do, I remember it for a really long time. I need someone to really help kinda guide me through Eureka. That's a tough ask. The majority of people aren't that selfless, and I'm not going to force someone to help me. I wish I was like everyone else, and I could just open that pdf up and knock it out, but I can't.

    Hell, I didn't learn highend crafting until someone extended the olive branch and brought it down to my level. And now I help my FC mates with it.

    I'm a lost cause. I know this, but this is me trying to learn.

    It may not seem like it, but I genuinely need help.
    Have you tried starting a PF specifically for learning Eureka zones? It may take some time to find people willing to join but, if you get interest, then at least you are entering with a group willing to guide (or who are in the same position. But, at least, then you can bounce questions off each other).

    Just a bit of advice, drop the whole "I'm a lost cause" vibe. It really does you no favors and will likely just drive people away.
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  5. #25
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    The magia board doesn't make sense to me at all. When I rotate it, nothing seems to move. So I don't even mess with it. Is there like a picture guide you could link me. I feel like what you're saying makes sense, but when I get in the game, it won't to me. Sorry.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    The magia board doesn't make sense to me at all. When I rotate it, nothing seems to move. So I don't even mess with it. Is there like a picture guide you could link me. I feel like what you're saying makes sense, but when I get in the game, it won't to me. Sorry.
    How it works is you go to the magia board at base camp. Click all the open slots on a random element to put points as far as it will go.

    Now what you do is you will see an enemy in the wild with an element next to it. That element is its type. If you click the magia board and rotate its element to the same as the enemy, you will not die as quickly. If you rotate its element to the opposite of that element (two elements left/anti-clockwise) then you will do more damage.

    But careful, you can only rotate the magia board so many times. Once it clicks in place it uses up one of the charges and if you run out, you either have to let it recharge or refill it faster back at camp.

    https://eurekan-academy.fandom.com/wiki/The_Magia_Board

    You eventually get 5 magia, but you obtain them over time from quests.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  7. 04-04-2023 06:54 AM
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    Quoted wrong person

  8. #27
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    Have you tried starting a PF specifically for learning Eureka zones? It may take some time to find people willing to join but, if you get interest, then at least you are entering with a group willing to guide (or who are in the same position. But, at least, then you can bounce questions off each other).

    Just a bit of advice, drop the whole "I'm a lost cause" vibe. It really does you no favors and will likely just drive people away.
    I mean, it's true, though. So I'm supposed to lie to random strangers? I'm not trying to start anything. I just don't understand this need to put me down. I'm level 38, and I legitimately never used that Magia board thing because I really didn't understand it the first time and gave up on it.
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  9. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    I mean, it's true, though. So I'm supposed to lie to random strangers? I'm not trying to start anything. I just don't understand this need to put me down. I'm level 38, and I legitimately never used that Magia board thing because I really didn't understand it the first time and gave up on it.
    That has most likely affected your experience a lot then. The difference in damage dealt with and without magia points is massive. It's also a massive difference when you level up. It's not like outside Eureka where you update your gear and it barely makes a difference. It really is massive.

    You do get the Echo now, which we didn't used to have, so that probably makes them die quicker, but they could die even quicker if you were using magia correctly.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  10. #29
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    Viorel Amala
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    I honestly just want the rewards. I hate the content.

    lol, lmao even

    in serious tho, learn to use the magia to your benefit, more damage means faster,

    dont worry about making a relic, doesnt matter, just focus on completing the zone

    once you get to hydatos. find whatever discord for your region, sign up for ba, and learn how to make the out rez ability so even if you muck it up you can be dragged through

    no one can make u like something, but if you want that orb you gotta grit your teeth and learn to play poker when the dealer says its poker
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    Last edited by 4clubbedace; 04-04-2023 at 07:07 AM.

  11. #30
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    I mean I'm not lying. You can be a jerk all you want, but at least I'm upfront about it.
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