Scholar Please Remove

[deston07]

(Edit: I made new Forum post, lol seems many didn't like this one)

[GrimGale]

>(Im sick of having to carry this Dead job in content plz stop playing it!)

[KatiaRelanah]

SE knows no one would play White Mage or Astro if Scholar was actually good.

You did it, you cracked the code. SE is keeping SCH nerfed to... Keep people from playing active healers... A totally different sub-role with a (well, for the modern 2 minute meta) different gameplay loop (i.e. reacting as opposed to pro-acting)

[Osmond]

Why Anyone plays Scholar I really can not understand
Times that it is good:
- Top 1% of play
- Level 30 -> 70 Dungeons (so you can pick up Sage)
Times it is bad:
- Any form of casual play
- PVP
- Savage/Ult (forces other healers to carry)

Why is it Bad?
-Lack of useful Mitigation!!
-Forces use of Healing resources for damage
-Lack of useful off-global cooldowns

What would make it better?
-Energy Drain - No Aetherflow cost - 2 charges Cool Down
- Add -second Damage over Time - Off Global - gives 10 fairy guage
-Sacred Soil - Applies Mitigation buff that isn't removed after stepping out of the affected area.

SE knows no one would play White Mage or Astro if Scholar was actually good.
Ether Sage is good or Scholar is good it can't be both, obviously they will pick the new job.
So there is literally no point in Scholar other than the (top 1-5%) for Damage buff.
(Im sick of having to carry this Dead job in content plz stop playing it!)

I main SCH, I can say.............hmm. There is some glaring issues with the job that make ppl say SGE is the better shield healer...on top of better DPS tools. Yeah, I can agree with you on the lack of mitigation, particularly Fey Illumination. Not every attack when it comes to savage or ultimate does only magic dmg and that needs to be change to dmg reduction. I end up comparing it to Holos and it needs an adjustment. Energy Drain is.......just there. Just a waste of a button at this point. The HP recovery on yourself isn't worth it and the gauge cost up will end up getting you to get past 100 too quickly. They may as well just get rid of it altogether. Sacred Soil....I can't see much of an issue with it. Depending on situation, SGE's version is great on the move, SCH version is great when a big hit is coming and ppl will know to get in the field before it does so it has their pros/cons. I don't think it needs another DoT tool, just another utility tool like Chain Stratagem for crits, but more on a AoE for the party. Was considering attack speed to be the thing, but I consider other players and might mess up their rotation so consider direct hit up for the party during bursts. While SGE have many DPS tools, SCH have many utility tools to benefit the party.

The more I play SCH, the more I see it as more support/shield healer so I was thinking of giving SCH a bigger shield to benefit the party, more mitigation.....which was given to SGE, re-work the fairy gauge/aetherpact because it's trash. More rate % tools. Oh yeah, forgot Dissipation. That needs a re-work as well. Idk how they are going to do it, but they need to do something.

[Silver-Strider]

Slow day today it seems.

[Renathras]

Wait...what?

No, seriously...what?

I mean, I agree with you on Energy Drain...but not really anything else.

SCH isn't perfect - no Job is - but it's entirely fine. Heck, you say it's bad in casual content? Eos can solo casual content (low level dungeons) for you. SCH has some of the most expansive mitigation toolkit of all the Healer Jobs. SCH is arguably the best Healer Job in the sense of having an answer to basically any situation. While AST can hard carry a LITTLE better in a super high end coordinated group, SCH is quite powerful itself.

[fulminating]

Why stop there? delete the entire healer role, it's worthless as is. Especially sage, that's a poor imitation of the superior scholar.

Energy drain is the only interesting healer mechanic as it has twofold opportunity costs, first the obvious one and second with dissipation. Lilies and adderrgall manage to be a condensed version of the bad part of aetherflow management ie that they need to be burnt for optimal play even if the healing is unnecessary.

Scholar is also pretty much a guaranteed pick for high end content because it has access to flexible mitigation, a totem heal, a raid buff and despite repeated nerfs has been the king of the healers since ARR.

[RyuDragnier]

>(Im sick of having to carry this Dead job in content plz stop playing it!)

So low quality that catfish won't even touch it (they'll eat anything).

[deston07]

(This post is mostly over the top honestly) But..
Currently I main Sage/WHM
In Shadow Bringers my main was Scholar,
I just hate how useless it feels now in Harder content, especially compared to sage.
My static is currently trying to get a new healer, the majority have been scholars.
It has been panful to heal with most scholars compared to sage.

Many brings up FFLogs, but few seem to realize that scholars doing good damage opt for damage, while scholars that do good Healing opt for healing.
It is almost impossible for a Scholar to do good damage And healing.
scholars generally go for damage rather than healing, because you are more likely to be kicked from PF's for a lack of damage than lack of healing.
Most groups don't even look at healing (ACT)

Most of the community seems to underestimate the importance of mitigation.
Sage is good because it can constant 10% Mitigation + heal over time.
For big AOE's they can put out 30% mitigation. <- (Edit: 20%)

Scholar mitigation leaves a lot to be desired, If scholar even saves Aetherflow to use sacred soil. Most in PF do not use Aetherflow for healing at all.

[Nizzi]

- Savage/Ult (forces other healers to carry)

It's the highest DPS healer in Abyssos and the most picked healer in DSR. If anything, SCH carries its cohealer.

Why is it Bad?
-Lack of useful Mitigation!!
-Forces use of Healing resources for damage
-Lack of useful off-global cooldowns

First is entirely untrue, SCH has the best mitigation in the game - so much so that SGE's Holos has to be buffed because SCH was superior to SGE. SGE still cannot match a spread Critlo.
Second doesn't force anything, there's not enough to heal.
Third is also entirely untrue. SCH's oGCDs are busted, Recitation, Expedient, Sacred Soil, etc.

What would make it better?
-Energy Drain - No Aetherflow cost - 2 charges Cool Down
- Add -second Damage over Time - Off Global - gives 10 fairy guage
-Sacred Soil - Applies Mitigation buff that isn't removed after stepping out of the affected area.

The first two of these would suck. oGCD damage that interacts with nothing is boring. No thank you.
Sacred Soil's mitigation extends for an entire tick after its effect goes away, making both the 10% mitigation 18s at full value and the Regen longer than Kerachole's as the Regen tick applies immediately for an additional tick over Sage's.

Most of the community seems to underestimate the importance of mitigation. Scholar mitigation leaves a lot to be desired

No offense, but this is ironic. You don't seem to understand Scholar's kit at all and it shows by what you're writing here.