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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    It seems plausible for the 24 Man Raid coins at the least. They release 3 24 mans per expansion which is the same as the Beast Tribes added so a secondary tab for those coins seems like a no brainer.

    Raids would be a bit tricker since there's 12 per expansion and unless they do something similar to Tombstones were there's a universal token akin to Poetics for outdated raids, it would be much harder to make it work and even then, that causes the problem of just grinding the 1st Raid of a Current Tier to buy the gear from the higher tiers without ever needing to actually do those fights unless they keep the token for each fight different, which isn't any different to what is currently the case other than clearing up space.
    I've harped on this issue over and over again.

    Changing all the old raid currencies to a single token would be a good start.

    Eden Token of X
    Omega Token of Y

    The raids have already kind of did it with the coins. Just drop 8 coins in a raid and let people buy what they want.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Players just need to learn that some currencies have no value after you obtain all applicable rewards. I suppose a good question would be... when was the last time SE added a reward to a 24-man/raid/extreme that used those tokens after the content became stale? If the answer is "never" or "not for a very long time", players jut need to learn to toss out those coins, books, tokens, totems, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Players just need to learn that some currencies have no value after you obtain all applicable rewards. I suppose a good question would be... when was the last time SE added a reward to a 24-man/raid/extreme that used those tokens after the content became stale? If the answer is "never" or "not for a very long time", players jut need to learn to toss out those coins, books, tokens, totems, etc.
    But why tho? Why would players need to be walking encyclopedias full of pointless info like knowing that this specific token is from X or Y and can buy A or B? Why should we need to remember/google what is Mullondeis Coin for? This is just useless info, I don't want to waste time for that. Sure you can farm old normal raids token no problem, but throwing them away when you might want some glam in a future is still dumb.

    For real, this is not some player made problem. Yes, a lot of players are hoarders, but that definitely doesn't mean that devs cluttering inventory with random junk is good design. It really surprises me how some people can be so dismissive for simple QoL improvements that have no downsides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    But why tho? Why would players need to be walking encyclopedias full of pointless info like knowing that this specific token is from X or Y and can buy A or B? Why should we need to remember/google what is Mullondeis Coin for? This is just useless info, I don't want to waste time for that. Sure you can farm old normal raids token no problem, but throwing them away when you might want some glam in a future is still dumb.

    For real, this is not some player made problem. Yes, a lot of players are hoarders, but that definitely doesn't mean that devs cluttering inventory with random junk is good design. It really surprises me how some people can be so dismissive for simple QoL improvements that have no downsides.
    Then buy extra retainers and store them indefinitely. I wonder if there are players out there with stacks of Chi Bolts and complaining about the inventory space -1. Get what you need and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Then buy extra retainers and store them indefinitely. I wonder if there are players out there with stacks of Chi Bolts and complaining about the inventory space -1. Get what you need and move on.
    I've had some chi bolts stuck in my retainer inventory since Endwalker release lol.
    I'm in no rush to go fight him again to get the extra for whatever reward it was (a mount?), but I figure I'll probably get around to it eventually, will save me that one extra spawn when I finally do.
    Same for some EX1 and EX3 totems I have lying around.

    It ain't space that I desperately need, but they are just sitting there, and probably will do for a long time, knowing me.

    It's not a super urgent need to have these things out of my inventory into a separate currency window, but it would be a nice little QoL thing imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Then buy extra retainers and store them indefinitely. I wonder if there are players out there with stacks of Chi Bolts and complaining about the inventory space -1. Get what you need and move on.
    So you would just spend real money to accommodate shitty game design? How gullible can you be?
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    Selene Halflight
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    This topic, like a few others, overlap with others..,
    For example..,
    AR Coins Have always become Unobtainable after the expansions .X series finishes.
    in the one thread asking for a change to the Gear Drop(to remove the unneeded Role/Job RNG by converting to Head/Chest/Arm/Leg/Feet Coffers.) one of which was The AR Coins becoming something Akin to Tomestones.
    <which would make older AR drops become Purchaseable like Crystals/allagan/etc crafting items, or individual pieces.

    if it was in This form, I'd agree.
    Since it reduces the Amount of Tabs and Coins in the Currency tab.<Since it would phase out with the current system, only those who kept old Currency would feel that pain of their own choice. Their Burden. Not anothers.>

    To reward the players efforts.
    And if they don't have enough to use their currency, a turn in/exchange should be set.
    [For example, the Raids Exchange Items, if you don't have enough, you can exchange the remaining items for useful, or millable currency.]

    TLDR:
    While I get players hold onto Nostalgia and memories of past encounters.
    There isn't much reason to hold onto items that don't serve a purpose. <even one person's bragging rights(even more so, if it was the single most peak object in-universe), is the world's ancient history>

    The Rest Exist to reduce bloat, and also give a push/semblance of restart for all involved in current content.

    These Currencies in the Tab are fine.
    But Reduce them to a all encompassing Poetic.

    We have no need for them all to be there.

    And give old Currency a reason to be traded/turned in.

    [Like I mentioned at the start, the topic overlaps in other systems. So Ultimate Totems Can be converted to something larger. Since you have no use for them if you no new job gets a version of it, and if ULT raiders get some gain from it, then no harm. <that in itself is another topic>
    And excess totems for trials, or other content, can/should unlock a shop once you've reached enough to buy the mount and still no drop<potentially with other things to trade in for, for those unfortunate to get it last second, or have yet to get cards or bard mats>]
    An Endless topic indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnintino View Post
    If it's a competition, both parties are losing lol.

    Slots fill up very quickly. I've since learned to just sell crafting mats, since I have no interest in doing anything with them myself, and I discard outdated raid loot that I'm not interested in using for glams. In general, I don't mind inventory management, and I personally don't need more slots as long as I keep up on it, it's true. But I still don't think our inventories should be forced to carry the burden of currency bloat like this, because my point is that it's not doing anyone any favors, newbie or veteran alike.
    I wouldnt count totems as currency bloat. Usually when people farm for a mount they focus on that grind solely till they get it, I rarely have seen players trying to spread out their totem grinds as such.
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    1000000000% behind this idea, my chocobo is sick of carrying coins
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    1000000000% behind this idea, my chocobo is sick of carrying coins
    That one relevant Euphro coin is seriously eating up that bag
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