Length MSQ from all the expansions - it is getting insane

[Stormpeaks]

Subjective.
I think Both are good, but hey, to each their own.



Not even my argument.
Im saying the Steamcharts dont factor in Players that Play Via the official Launcher, or on Consoles.
It would be more accurate if there was a way to factor in the whole playerbaase, instead of just 1 metric that on hits a Percentage. One that we cant say for sure hit X% of the playerbase.

It
Still
Gives
A
Trend.

It's too easy to always say this stuff, knowing very well they dont share numbers, so you can keep coping saying "yeah x source is false because it doesnt include x", it's some next level coping. Obviously its not complete because they dont share those numbers, so all we can get is a sample, and it does give a downward trend, a pretty big one too.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

It
Still
Gives
A
Trend.
It's too easy to always say this stuff, knowing very well they dont share numbers, so you can keep coping saying "yeah x source is false because it doesnt include x", it's some next level coping

You ok?
Because I understand you just fine. No need to break it down as if I didnt understand how much weight you guys put on Steam.
And I never said Any Source was false. Please dont start making stuff up for no reason.

[kaynide]

This game is not an rpg if you tried a true rpg you wouldn't have said that. In rpg you can finish quest in couple of different ways. An example is solving Gecko power plant problem in Fallout 2. There are at least 4 ways to solve it. Proper rpg allows multiple quest resolution.

I mean, sure options are fine..but to define a game as an RPG or not based on choices is rather silly. Railroading is a thing in RPGs…even grand-daddy Dungeons and Dragons has scenarios that lack choice by default (thank god for DMs allowing off the script play)

Heck, The two big JRPG games (Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy) started with stories that are firmly on their respective rails.

[SannaR]

Ahh yes the thrilling gameplay of Flyff, Maple Story (didn't play the 2nd one) and FF XI. I will admit that I don't remember much of the 1st two game's stories as it's been a very long time. Yet neither had what I'd call exciting game play. People have been known to fall asleep during fights in XI cause you know auto attacking or hoping your spell finishes off the mob your fighting (and that it doesn't get interrupted) so you can go into rest mode for 10mins (or more) is so captivating.

[VelKallor]

It's too easy to always say this stuff, knowing very well they dont share numbers, so you can keep coping saying "yeah x source is false because it doesnt include x", it's some next level coping. Obviously its not complete because they dont share those numbers, so all we can get is a sample, and it does give a downward trend, a pretty big one too

No.

STEAM does not factor in the huge disparity between their numbers , those on native launchers as well as the PSN network. You do not have any data on other login systems, which must of force be included to make your entire dataset from which to draw a statistical analysis.

You are, as has been shown above, unable to provide said data, and you cannot at this time provide any form of correlation between those datasets to indicate any trend.

You also have no baseline data from which to draw a comparative analysis...i.i.e player numbers for the last three years, broken down by region etc. Youd also need the same for WOW....good luck with THAT.

To quote Helmuth of Boskone "Your report is neither complete nor conclusive".

[Draken]

It sounds like this isn’t the game for you then, which is fine, however coming into the forums to complain about it and expect changes is not.

FF has always been about the story, that isn’t going to change and it caters to their audience, which apparently you aren’t. Just move on if it isn’t for you. But asking for changes to the core game design isn’t going to happen.

[dspguy]

Alts make a lot of sense to me. I have multiple characters with their own appearance and name, own set of glamour plates and personalised glamour collection that suits them.

It might not be what you play the game for, but enjoying multiple character designs is a big part of it for me, and this way I can switch on a whim and never have to spend money on Fantasias.

As long as a player like you is fine with the time (or money) investment, more power to you.

[Hurlstone]

WOTLK, Pandaria, Legion would like a word with you.

To me, WoW always had the potential for great story telling but I never really got the feeling they cared much about their lore. Like playing Cataclysm as a Alliance member was very a shame with most zones being either dull or painful parodies. Most of the big character moments they keep for novels and outside media, at least when I was playing. Now there is nothing wrong with having outside media helping to enhance the lore (I think FFXIV should do this actually. I would gladly read a novel or two explaining how the Ancients lived or what the Scions got up to during their years in the First) but it makes playing through quests feel rather hollow.

I do think Pandaria was the best in this regard, mostly because it wasn't a ‘take on old RTS Warcraft villain’ x3 plot and actually tried new things. I hear Legion was good, but have not played since Warlords so cannot really comment on stuff beyond that.

[Saraide]

No.

STEAM does not factor in the huge disparity between their numbers , those on native launchers as well as the PSN network. You do not have any data on other login systems, which must of force be included to make your entire dataset from which to draw a statistical analysis.

You are, as has been shown above, unable to provide said data, and you cannot at this time provide any form of correlation between those datasets to indicate any trend.

You also have no baseline data from which to draw a comparative analysis...i.i.e player numbers for the last three years, broken down by region etc. Youd also need the same for WOW....good luck with THAT.

To quote Helmuth of Boskone "Your report is neither complete nor conclusive".

Do you think that the people who play on steam have significantly different taste and opinions when it comes to ff14 than those on consoles or on the standalone launcher?

[Stormpeaks]

Do you think that the people who play on steam have significantly different taste and opinions when it comes to ff14 than those on consoles or on the standalone launcher?

It's a coping mechanism for them, because they know there wont ever be any sort of number for subscriptions and how much the game retains players over patches and mini patches and expansions, so they keep saying "yeah you have incomplete data", because that way they can feel like they are right, even though it's proven otherwise via steam charts which gives a good sample, but they just wont accept that because it doesnt include consoles and standalone.

The player behind a console or a computer is still... a player, so as I have tried to tell them a million times, it's not exact numbers to the 0.01%, but it gives a good idea of the trend, if its upward or downward.