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    Length MSQ from all the expansions - it is getting insane

    Since I am a veteran MMO player, played them since 2001.
    I hate this hand-holding that this game has.
    Also, the number of hours you have to spend to play through the ALL msq is just insane.
    I am the type of player who likes to have tons of alts and does not like the idea of having all classes on one character.
    I like playing every class on different characters like in all other games out there.
    It feels like SE is forcing me to pay story skip since it takes me more than 30 days to complete msq on single character. Mostly because I hate it, and I hate it because it is not voiced and there are too many fetch quests. The old republic has all quests voiced, maybe because the number of them is so much smaller than FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenarashi View Post
    Since I am a veteran MMO player, played them since 2001.
    I hate this hand-holding that this game has.
    Also, the number of hours you have to spend to play through the ALL msq is just insane.
    I am the type of player who likes to have tons of alts and does not like the idea of having all classes on one character.
    I like playing every class on different characters like in all other games out there.
    It feels like SE is forcing me to pay story skip since it takes me more than 30 days to complete msq on single character. Mostly because I hate it, and I hate it because it is not voiced and there are too many fetch quests. The old republic has all quests voiced, maybe because the number of them is so much smaller than FFXIV.
    SE isn't holding a gun to your head to force you to buy story skip/levelling skip. thats completely optional. if you feel forced too then might want to rethink the mmo scene altogether. As for multiple toons..just a waste of time. they made this easier on people who want to play different classes without having to have multiple toons. As for the number of hours...you new to the franchise? for as long as i can remember, final fantasy has always been a story driven rpg. Even ff11 is the same way. So why would they change up the formula lol. I also get your hate of fetch quests and was happy when they adjusted post arr msq leg. you can honestly skip side content and just focus down unlocking housing as you go and aether currents.

    like if you trolling cool but if you serious. might wanna consider playing WoW and other mmo's that more fit your vision of what you want because this is here to stay. the formula won't change and trust me. it sucks to have to go through it all again on an alt but hey, you can skip cutscenes to make it at least a bit less of a bother.
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    You should definitely get option to story skip on alts, once one of your character finishes story. But I doubt that's ever happening, there's some nice money for SE in selling story skips.

    And I'm for more voice acting. It's not-a-cheap AAA with main focus on story, there are no excuses for having only some 1/3 of story voice acted, especially when much less profitable games like GW2 have voice acted everything including player (5 races * 2 genders = 10 VAs just for player character) and even just random NPCs randomly chatting in overworld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    SE isn't holding a gun to your head to force you to buy story skip/levelling skip. thats completely optional. if you feel forced too then might want to rethink the mmo scene altogether. As for multiple toons..just a waste of time. they made this easier on people who want to play different classes without having to have multiple toons. As for the number of hours...you new to the franchise? for as long as i can remember, final fantasy has always been a story driven rpg. Even ff11 is the same way. So why would they change up the formula lol. I also get your hate of fetch quests and was happy when they adjusted post arr msq leg. you can honestly skip side content and just focus down unlocking housing as you go and aether currents.

    like if you trolling cool but if you serious. might wanna consider playing WoW and other mmo's that more fit your vision of what you want because this is here to stay. the formula won't change and trust me. it sucks to have to go through it all again on an alt but hey, you can skip cutscenes to make it at least a bit less of a bother.
    Firstly i haven't touched FF franchise before FFXIV. This is not a single-player game, it is an mmo. Some things can pass in single player game cannot pass in mmo and the other way around. I have played mmo's for over 20 years and i have never feel forced to buy a skip. I feel it here, so something must be not right with this game.
    That is the thing i do not like the idea of playing ever class on different character. I like to create a story for all my characters. Like one is aspiring mage and the other is raging lunatic etc.
    I do not hate fetch quest, as i was saying i am playing mmo's for like 20 years or so. Wow have tons of fetch quests and have never problem with them. What i have problem with is that the game forces me to do all of them to advance. This game is not an rpg if you tried a true rpg you wouldn't have said that. In rpg you can finish quest in couple of different ways. An example is solving Gecko power plant problem in Fallout 2. There are at least 4 ways to solve it. Proper rpg allows multiple quest resolution. Even in Oblivion you can finish quest more in one way.
    Example in LOTRO you can start the story of moria without completing the story Angmar. In Wow you have to finish the story of expansion you are playing nowadays but it doesn't require you to finish the story from previous expansion to play current content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    You should definitely get option to story skip on alts, once one of your character finishes story. But I doubt that's ever happening, there's some nice money for SE in selling story skips.

    And I'm for more voice acting. It's not-a-cheap AAA with main focus on story, there are no excuses for having only some 1/3 of story voice acted, especially when much less profitable games like GW2 have voice acted everything including player (5 races * 2 genders = 10 VAs just for player character) and even just random NPCs randomly chatting in overworld.
    Totally agree. Most of modern MMO are voiced. As you mentioned GW2. ESO is also voiced not to mention SW the Old Republic.
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    I had that early on when I started 2 years ago, I did the entire ARR story and I was in the quests in between ARR and HW which is about 120-130 quests with no rewards at all, nothing of value, and I told myself nah I'm not doing this and I just skipped all of it to the end with a boost and level boost

    It just takes way too long and if you arent interested that much in the story, its an absolute slog
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    Let's not pretend the SWTOR is anything great...

    Though it has some nice aspects....it's problems are numerous, and long lasting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenarashi View Post
    Totally agree. Most of modern MMO are voiced. As you mentioned GW2. ESO is also voiced not to mention SW the Old Republic.

    SWTOR was also the most expensive game ever made when it was launched, and it went f2p shortly after due to a lack of return on investment from subscriptions.
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    Not to state the obvious, but maybe FFXIV isn't for you?
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    If you're playing alts, just buy the story skips. It's what I did for my characters. Although I have one of them doing the msq naturally since I wanted to relive some story beats and progression naturally anyway.
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