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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    let's say hypothetically they make a new ultimate fight but put the hardest 3 trios at the penultimate phase
    trios by definition make bosses untargettable so you focus on movement only, not dps
    so if you were to be able to play on a simulator that lets you practice the trios without having to do all the previous phases, you would gain a massive advantage because anything you learn in the simulation can be translated 1 to 1 to ingame movement

    so if the asaumption is that since simulators are freely accessible to anyone and therefore not cheating, then should developers make the latter phases of a fight insanely hard, with the assumption that players are required to use simulators to practice them beforehand?
    Why would being able to practice a later phase more efficiently mean it needs to be tuned to be harder?
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  2. #62
    Player SeiyaSoiya's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    Why would being able to practice a later phase more efficiently mean it needs to be tuned to be harder?
    because otherwise it becomes too easy
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    because otherwise it becomes too easy
    It doesn't become any easier, it just becomes quicker.
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  4. #64
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    Viorel Amala
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    let's say hypothetically they make a new ultimate fight but put the hardest 3 trios at the penultimate phase
    trios by definition make bosses untargettable so you focus on movement only, not dps
    so if you were to be able to play on a simulator that lets you practice the trios without having to do all the previous phases, you would gain a massive advantage because anything you learn in the simulation can be translated 1 to 1 to ingame movement

    so if the asaumption is that since simulators are freely accessible to anyone and therefore not cheating, then should developers make the latter phases of a fight insanely hard, with the assumption that players are required to use simulators to practice them beforehand?
    thats still not cheating
    the textbook definition is "dishonest" and "unfair", its neither of those

    thats like saying a batting cage is cheating because you pay money to use it and practice swings outside a real baseball game
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  5. #65
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    Freely accessible external tools should not mean the said game should be tuned around the expectation that everyone will be using them.

    That's just downright poor game design. Games should only really be designed around systems embedded natively within the game.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 04-05-2023 at 01:40 AM.

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by XianRo View Post
    I honestly think job icons in chat is the lamest plug they couldve possibly shoved into 14.
    Who is this for? What is the point? Are people so busy reading chat they cant glance up at their party list? If thats the case they cant be playing well to begin with.
    Theres two races whove been here for 4 years who cant use 98% of a gearslot Yoship, how bout you add that into the game.
    The job icon is a ui thing. Your argument is dumb to complain here about headgear. Can you hroth stop complaining in every thread about your headgear issue when its not even relevant? Thanks.
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    Last edited by Nyxs; 04-05-2023 at 01:44 AM.

  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    thats still not cheating
    the textbook definition is "dishonest" and "unfair", its neither of those

    thats like saying a batting cage is cheating because you pay money to use it and practice swings outside a real baseball game
    tell console player that "top phase 5 simulator" is not unfair

    you're a joke

    Simulator help's you more than 3000 illegal 3rd party tools, its not a debate, its a fact
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    The job icon is a ui thing. Your argument is dumb to complain here about headgear. Can you hroth stop complaining in every thread about your headgear issue when its not even relevant? Thanks.
    If you want them to stop, ignore them, unless they repeat it multiple times in the thread.

    I get you want retaliation, but the rest of us responded accordingly.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    tell console player that "top phase 5 simulator" is not unfair

    you're a joke

    Simulator help's you more than 3000 illegal 3rd party tools, its not a debate, its a fact
    youre missing half the sentence , "dishonest" is half the equation here.

    And dont be daft, you know it isnt.

    "but consoles!" dont care, go to the library and use a computer there if you want to try out the sim, by this logic a higher fidelity screen and better internet is unfair cheating.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Using simulator is cheating (it gives you an incredibly huge advantage, way more than any 3rd party tools), but yes «*its legal*» lol
    It is legal by ToS and it isn't cheating.
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