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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Some legal things are more of a cheat than some illegal things ( Raid simulator is legal and more of a cheat than 1000 zoomhack, Discord allows you to get carried just as Triggers do, Wide screen is more efficient than zoomhack)

    But is it actually cheating though.

    It's a simulation, not actually the game.

    it may temper you to the situation, and think "That this is just like in the simulations"
    making it easier.

    But it's not actually in the game.
    it's like what that one CC says, does that make discord a TPP, Does that make twitch a TPP during a World Race.
    Does that make the Housing Simulator<By itself, with no intent to move into the game>, or the Glamour sharing websites TPPs?

    It does not.

    The whole "You do ____ for ___, ___ does ____ for ___. They are not the same."
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    But is it actually cheating though.

    It's a simulation, not actually the game.

    it may temper you to the situation, and think "That this is just like in the simulations"
    making it easier.

    But it's not actually in the game.
    it's like what that one CC says, does that make discord a TPP, Does that make twitch a TPP during a World Race.
    Does that make the Housing Simulator<By itself, with no intent to move into the game>, or the Glamour sharing websites TPPs?

    It does not.

    The whole "You do ____ for ___, ___ does ____ for ___. They are not the same."
    Using simulator is cheating (it gives you an incredibly huge advantage, way more than any 3rd party tools), but yes «*its legal*» lol
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    Last edited by CaedemSanguis; 04-04-2023 at 11:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Using simulator is cheating (it gives you an incredibly huge advantage, way more than any 3rd party tools), but yes «*its legal*» lol
    "its cheating to practice at poker before going to the gambling table"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    "its cheating to practice at poker before going to the gambling table"
    This analogy makes no sense. Cheating is defined by having an unfair or dishonest advantage. Particularly when competition is present. Anyone can practice poker before going to the gambling table. Whether they choose to do so is another matter. The same can be said about video guides for a trial or raid. This does and will give players an advantage over those who have not, or do not use those guides, but everyone has access to them. So a player who chooses to go in blind when these tools are available aren't cheated; they've deliberately chose to gimp themselves. Apply that knowledge to a combat simulator.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 04-04-2023 at 11:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    This analogy makes no sense. Cheating is defined by having an unfair or dishonest advantage. Particularly when competition is present. Anyone can practice poker before going to the gambling table. Whether they choose to do so is another matter. The same can be said about video guides for a trial or raid. This does and will give players an advantage over those who have not, or do not use those guides, but everyone has access to them. So a player who chooses to go in blind when these tools are available aren't cheated; they've deliberately chose to gimp themselves. Apply that knowledge to a combat simulator.
    I just googled it, cause I've never heard of it before, and correct me if I'm wrong it looks like something anyone could use pretty freely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    I just googled it, cause I've never heard of it before, and correct me if I'm wrong it looks like something anyone could use pretty freely.
    Yea everyone can use the sim. For some mechanics it only really makes sense to train with a full group of 8 but it's freely available to everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Yea everyone can use the sim. For some mechanics it only really makes sense to train with a full group of 8 but it's freely available to everyone.
    I might give it a go for 5 minutes, find it pretty neat, then never use it again
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Using simulator is cheating (it gives you an incredibly huge advantage, way more than any 3rd party tools), but yes «*its legal*» lol
    It is legal by ToS and it isn't cheating.
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