Another plugin feature being added to the game official (Job Icons)

[VeyaAkemi]

Okay, OP, hear this... there was never anything **moral** about not using mods, nor was anything moral about using them, because this is a game, it's not about morality other than maybe respecting YoshiP's on the subject, that's it, the addition of features similar to mods is irrelevant.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I'm trying to understand the logic here.

A: There is a mod that does 'x'

B: Devs decide to add 'x' into game

Therefore

C: It's okay to use the mod

Is that what OP is arguing here?

the problem isnt the actual mod (unless its actually cheating), the problem is BYPASSING ToS for it to be used in-game. Thats what the dev team gets worked up over, its never been about whether the mod is good for the game or not (again most of the time), they just have a problem of people going out of their way to install 3rd party software in order to get these features.

I will never understand why people seem to have such a hard time understanding this basic concept for why they give out bans when people get caught. I'll say it again, the mod itself isnt the issue, its their implementation that's the problem.

[SeiyaSoiya]

Okay, OP, hear this... there was never anything **moral** about not using mods, nor was anything moral about using them, because this is a game, it's not about morality other than maybe respecting YoshiP's on the subject, that's it, the addition of features similar to mods is irrelevant.

ah okay so cheating in TOP for example was never about morality it was always merely about a ToS legality issue

[VeyaAkemi]

ah okay so cheating in TOP for example was never about morality it was always merely about a ToS legality issue

[SeiyaSoiya]

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okay, so all these people saying zoomhacks and splatoon were much worse than ACT, who were streamers who cleared TOP, were not part of the ffxiv community?

[Kaurhz]

There is no morality involved with the usage of mods, morality only gets involved in very use-case situations where they can be used in an aggressive, or antisocial setting, e.g., to harass.

That being said the preclusion or prohibition of mods is not exclusively a matter of morality, but equally a matter of compatibility, ensuring equal footing/opportunity for all players, and avoiding the undermining of the game's integrity.

Further, this, and the largest concern even with tools that have the quality of life potential is the simple fact of the matter with computer security and integrity, a lot of mods can easily contain malware, and regardless of advantageous for the overall development of the game, they should be blanketed as prohibited, even if they later incorporate these ideas.

[Seraphor]

I'm trying to understand the logic here.

A: There is a mod that does 'x'

B: Devs decide to add 'x' into game

Therefore

C: It's okay to use the mod

Is that what OP is arguing here?

Seems kinda backwards. If anything it now means you have one less reason to use mods.

Also am I out of the loop? Job Icons what? What's coming to the game?

[SannaR]

Seems kinda backwards. If anything it now means you have one less reason to use mods.

Also am I out of the loop? Job Icons what? What's coming to the game?

In 6.4 you'll have an option to display the role or job a person who is speaking is on. Which I guess was a mod that may or may not have gotten a person(s) banned.

[Boblawblah]

ah okay so cheating in TOP for example was never about morality it was always merely about a ToS legality issue

Oh okay, OP is just looking for a "GOTCHA" moment. Carry on.

[Kaurhz]

Oh okay, OP is just looking for a "GOTCHA" moment. Carry on.

They are, and it's not as clever as they think it is.