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    Thurmnmurmn's Avatar
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    I dunno about you guys but I'm having a blast with Orthos.
    I'm trying it solo and it's by far the most challenging thing I've done. I don't raid so this is an awesome challenge.

    That aside, I do agree that for raiders, having something to fill in between the patch cycles would be nice. One alliance raid doesn't really add all that much.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    they need to take focus more off making Ultimates and the likes of that and focus more on casual content that the remaining 99% actually would do.
    I am a week late, but this. More stuff like the new dance floor that was recently added. More RP stuff. Places to go. Mounts, minions, golden saucer stuff. More MSQ and and as much it pains some here to hear it, more casual PvE content like 4 persons and trials. Too many resources already go into hard content, in my opinion.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosachi View Post
    Im not arguing that ultimate raiders are the majority. What I am saying is that there's enough people out there who enjoy the content to merit its existence.

    The whole majority/minority argument is completely stupid to begin with.

    One: You can make any community to be a extreme minority just by cutting it down. like: "Only 1% of players have a house. We should scrap housing" or "Only 1% of players go to older zones, we should scrap them" (I know this is not accurate, just making a point) As long as people enjoy and cherish content, that is enough for it to exist.
    People exaggerate. We all do it until we're defending something that matters to us. Doesn't make the stance that was provided inaccurate.

    Also, I don't know if you remember but 30% was being very generous. There's a lot to consider. Do we count people that tried ultimates once or twice in PF in that number? How long does someone have to prog(while never completing it) to count among those numbers?

    Besides that, go back to my point about the active playerbase. Content, especially repeatable patch content focuses on the active playerbase at the time. I'm not going to make numbers up because I really don't know how much of our pretend estimate of 30% actively plays the game, but considering that UWU is 5 years old, there's a good chance that a good chunk of the people that engaged with it are not a part of the active player base. An estimate of 30% seems big until you consider the activity over all across all 5 of that ultimates existence, and compare each chunk of activity at any given time to the amount of the active player base that's not partaking in it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosachi View Post
    Do you need a majority of people for something to exist?
    It depends. We don't really know how much effort goes into developing Ultimates. There's a lot more information you'd need before you'd make a decision like that.

    Anyways, I don't really care about whether or not they keep making Ultimates. I was mostly just annoyed by how you spread misinformation about FFXIV Collect, and how you exaggerated exactly like the person you were responding to.
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  4. #34
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    again..sure..lets take focus away from upcoming content to appease the people who would benefit from this. lets make the masses bored with lack of continued story or new content coming so the few can have their new "end game combat content" and burn through it fast then whine theres no more coming out soon enough.
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    Last edited by Ravenblade1979; 04-07-2023 at 04:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    again..sure..lets take focus away from upcoming content to appease the people who would benefit from this. lets make the masses bored with lack of continued story or new content coming so the few can have their new "end game combat content" and burn through it fast then whine theres no more coming out soon enough.
    The difference between the two players mentioned here is one afks in limsa/rps at venues, and the other complains about lack of content. :]
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    Player Ravenblade1979's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    The difference between the two players mentioned here is one afks in limsa/rps at venues, and the other complains about lack of content. :]
    lol so true
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    I am a week late, but this. More stuff like the new dance floor that was recently added. More RP stuff. Places to go. Mounts, minions, golden saucer stuff. More MSQ and and as much it pains some here to hear it, more casual PvE content like 4 persons and trials. Too many resources already go into hard content, in my opinion.
    You already have plenty of houses glitched into the void of space to enjoy :]
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  8. #38
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    I was thinking about this, because YES indeed, they need to at least add another raid tier set above Savage where BiS is required not only to make getting BiS actually meaningful and longer lasting within the patch cycle but also force them to loosen loot restrictions in Savage because there's a legit reason for wanting to get savage gear and not just be a stupid dumb MMO big number brain nerds crying for not being able to gear all roles when its not necessary because you can clear all the savage fights in min.ilv anyway and the reason the lockouts exist is because the savage raids is the only combat endgame this game has. So of course they'd want to prolong it by making you work for just one job BiS.


    Excuse the run-on sentence but in general, FFXIV has terrible raid progression and the gearing is the least of the issues here. Its the fact that they dont implement better and lasting raiding content like Mythic+
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I was thinking about this, because YES indeed, they need to at least add another raid tier set above Savage where BiS is required not only to make getting BiS actually meaningful and longer lasting within the patch cycle but also force them to loosen loot restrictions in Savage because there's a legit reason for wanting to get savage gear and not just be a stupid dumb MMO big number brain nerds crying for not being able to gear all roles when its not necessary because you can clear all the savage fights in min.ilv anyway and the reason the lockouts exist is because the savage raids is the only combat endgame this game has. So of course they'd want to prolong it by making you work for just one job BiS.


    Excuse the run-on sentence but in general, FFXIV has terrible raid progression and the gearing is the least of the issues here. Its the fact that they dont implement better and lasting raiding content like Mythic+
    Sounds perfect! Lets call them Ultimate raids!
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    Sorry, the XIV community doesn't actually want to play the game.
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