Quote Originally Posted by Kosachi View Post
Im not arguing that ultimate raiders are the majority. What I am saying is that there's enough people out there who enjoy the content to merit its existence.

The whole majority/minority argument is completely stupid to begin with.

One: You can make any community to be a extreme minority just by cutting it down. like: "Only 1% of players have a house. We should scrap housing" or "Only 1% of players go to older zones, we should scrap them" (I know this is not accurate, just making a point) As long as people enjoy and cherish content, that is enough for it to exist.
People exaggerate. We all do it until we're defending something that matters to us. Doesn't make the stance that was provided inaccurate.

Also, I don't know if you remember but 30% was being very generous. There's a lot to consider. Do we count people that tried ultimates once or twice in PF in that number? How long does someone have to prog(while never completing it) to count among those numbers?

Besides that, go back to my point about the active playerbase. Content, especially repeatable patch content focuses on the active playerbase at the time. I'm not going to make numbers up because I really don't know how much of our pretend estimate of 30% actively plays the game, but considering that UWU is 5 years old, there's a good chance that a good chunk of the people that engaged with it are not a part of the active player base. An estimate of 30% seems big until you consider the activity over all across all 5 of that ultimates existence, and compare each chunk of activity at any given time to the amount of the active player base that's not partaking in it.

Quote Originally Posted by Kosachi View Post
Do you need a majority of people for something to exist?
It depends. We don't really know how much effort goes into developing Ultimates. There's a lot more information you'd need before you'd make a decision like that.

Anyways, I don't really care about whether or not they keep making Ultimates. I was mostly just annoyed by how you spread misinformation about FFXIV Collect, and how you exaggerated exactly like the person you were responding to.