Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
So I'm not a statistics expert or anything, but when you use the clear rates from UWU and TEA as examples do you consider that it's an estimate provided for the entire playerbase of content that was created 4-5 years ago? UCoB which is even older is sitting at 7.4% as well.

The clear rates of older ultimates are probably going to go up over time, but I don't believe that means the clear rate is representative of active players.

Oh and FFXIV Collect grabs data from anyone with their lodestone page set to public. I don't believe there's that many people with their pages set to private. It doesn't care about whether or not the person is wearing/wears their title. The moment the achievement is earned Collect logs it.

So. Based on that let's be generous and give UWU +3% clears that we don't know about. Let's go on and double that to account for the people attempting but not clearing as well. That's 30% activity. You are still in the minority by a lot, and that's being incredibly generous. I get that the whole "only 1% of the player base bothers with ultimates" is a massive exaggeration, but it doesn't change the fact that only a minority of the player base does in fact bother engaging with ultimates.

30% of the total player base with a very, very generous estimation. Not the active player base that plays through the post expansion patches, just the total player base.

Anyways, continue on.
Im not arguing that ultimate raiders are the majority. What I am saying is that there's enough people out there who enjoy the content to merit its existence.

The whole majority/minority argument is completely stupid to begin with.

One: You can make any community to be a extreme minority just by cutting it down. like: "Only 1% of players have a house. We should scrap housing" or "Only 1% of players go to older zones, we should scrap them" (I know this is not accurate, just making a point) As long as people enjoy and cherish content, that is enough for it to exist.

Two: 30% isn't a majority but it's bloody huge. More than enough to merit it not getting scrapped??????????? Do you need a majority of people for something to exist?