Quote Originally Posted by Kosachi View Post
Can we please PLEASE stop acting like ultimates are a boogeyman who are sucking the life out of the devs. We get two of these per expansion if we're lucky so not like it's keeping them up all day and all night crunching.

Also this 1% BS is the silliest strawman and I'm getting tired of it. 12% of players have actually cleared uwu and 8% of players have cleared tea. (Source: https://ffxivcollect.com/titles?q%5B...cont%5D=legend) and these are just from titles so it doesn't count people who aren't wearing it. At the end of the day though, clear rates don't even matter that much. What matters most is that people attempt them and that number is without a doubt a lot higher.

Finally, raiders aren't the ones who are advocating for taking content away from other people. I personally enjoy just playing the game for the sake of playing the game and so a lot of "casual" things the games have to offer are rather enjoyable. And if a raider doesn't feel like doing it, they play something else. It's the "Casuals" who are advocating for removing a large and historic part of the game because they selfishly think it will give them more content because they're the not the minority.
So I'm not a statistics expert or anything, but when you use the clear rates from UWU and TEA as examples do you consider that it's an estimate provided for the entire playerbase of content that was created 4-5 years ago? UCoB which is even older is sitting at 7.4% as well.

The clear rates of older ultimates are probably going to go up over time, but I don't believe that means the clear rate is representative of active players.

Oh and FFXIV Collect grabs data from anyone with their lodestone page set to public. I don't believe there's that many people with their pages set to private. It doesn't care about whether or not the person is wearing/wears their title. The moment the achievement is earned Collect logs it.

So. Based on that let's be generous and give UWU +3% clears that we don't know about. Let's go on and double that to account for the people attempting but not clearing as well. That's 30% activity. You are still in the minority by a lot, and that's being incredibly generous. I get that the whole "only 1% of the player base bothers with ultimates" is a massive exaggeration, but it doesn't change the fact that only a minority of the player base does in fact bother engaging with ultimates.

30% of the total player base with a very, very generous estimation. Not the active player base that plays through the post expansion patches, just the total player base.

Anyways, continue on.