Thread: 6.4 patch speculation

Originally Posted by Cleretic

I wouldn't exactly say it's a daring guess to say that Golbez was somehow involved with the Contramemoria, though. The same is true of everyone else who's a character in the Thirteenth, and the fact that life is in a birthless and deathless stasis there means he can't exactly have turned up late. At this point it'd be a bigger swing to say he wasn't involved in the war, because... well, how the hell do you dodge that one?

Adding to that, the real question happens to be who IS Golbez? We have not seen his face, and his power and ability to strategize is far outside of the norm of Voidsent. Is he a Sundered Ascian from the 13th? Is he Azem's Shard? Does he happen to be a shard of anybody we know? Or is he something even more outside of the ordinary that will throw us all for a loop when we discover it?

Originally Posted by Kesey

But there is a mystery with Golbez, which is rooted in his identity behind the mask and who/what was he before 13th was corrupted. Are they really going to just gloss over this to get to another story entirely? Their track record says no.

Yoshi-p's comment that 6.4 will have different meaning/understanding after 6.5 kinda points to this idea that Golbez isn't exactly what we think he is.

Last time Yoshi-p spoke like this was about 5.2 and 5.3, where information we learned in 5.3 (that Elidibus was a primal and still alive as the heart of Zodiark) changed the meaning of something from 5.2 (being that Venat was specifically used to create the heart of Hydealyn) which then had major implications later in the story (Venat's role in Endwalker, past and present).

So we are going to be handed a crucial piece of lore pertaining to Golbez and his throne, but won't really understand the consequences of it until later in the story.

I'm expecting 6.4 is going to be the proper close for the void storyline then we get a stinger teasing that something unpleasant is going down in whatever region we're heading to in 7.x and we're getting just one patch of build up in 6.5 as opposed to two like is typically the case.

Honestly, if we DO fight Azadaja that's more fodder for my pet theory that they're building up a (Orthos Spoiler)

The First Brood Ultimate fight, considering we've now fought Nidhogg, Hraesvelgr, Midgarsormr, Bahamut, and Clone Tiamat. Now I don't mean Lore-wise building up to it, rather slowly figuring out mechanics for each dragon of the first brood in case they do decide to design that Ultimate

For MSQ patch-content, my best guess is there won't be any indication of where we're going next or what the next story arc will be until 6.5 or even 6.55. Obviously we as players will know from expansion announcement at FanFest, but we the players knowing WHERE doesn't translate to WHY.

(Still holding out hope for Krile to rise to prominence as we explore the New World and she takes up Native Geomancy which is closer to a more attack-based Conjury and just coincidentally happens to share a name with Hingan Geomancy)

If it's an Ascian, my money is on Pashtarot. Why? Because his title (going by FF12's info on the Scions of Light and Darkness) is Knight-Star...and Golbez certainly looks like a knight. Plus his other half is Zeromus, the Condemner. Makes for a perfect Ascian to be play the role I'd think.

I wouldn't completely count out ascian involvement. At the moment it seems like Zero is a pretty heavy-handed reference to Cecil, Golbez is just Golbez, but there is no sign of Zemus/Zeromus quite yet. Golbez mentions to the four elemental archfiends that ascians shared information with him about the Source iirc, so an ascian controlling Golbez could be a reference to Zemus, similarly to how in FF4 Zemus controlled Golbez. But overall Golbez' plan makes... '' sense '' in that he wants to free all the voidsent of the Thirteenth from purgatory, which is not a terrible motive, so it does feel like he has more agency this time around and wouldn't need a Zemus equivalent to control him and feed him potential lies. Yet even if Golbez' motives aren't terrible, his plans are going to mess with the Source and that's most likely in line with what ascians would want. Or is it? I don't think Golbez has any interest in rejoining the shards, and the Thirteenth is still a void that ascians would want to fix before rejoining. So an ascian orchestrating all this doesn't sound too convincing just yet.

Then there's the fact that Zero's name is so close to Zeromus that it doesn't feel like a coincidence, but it might just be a red herring, especially with Zero being a reference to Cecil in specfic. And with that said, I am expecting Zero and Golbez to be brother and sister, just like Cecil and Golbez were brothers in FF4. But how that is going to influence the story going forward, I don't know. Rubicante mentioned that he wonders whether we can essentially '' reach out '' to Golbez, as he hasn't completely gone feral and there might still be some humanity left in him, and perhaps Zero will have much to do with that.

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I’m kind of over the void content at this point. I was REALLY excited for it and then it just felt kind of.. lacking. Probably because it’s coming after such a big story ending. Hoping that 6.4 rounds out and ties off the void content and brings that Scions back together so they can get ready for 6.5 where we get our first taste of hopefully this “new old world”.