Thread: 6.4 patch speculation

Umm.... forgive me if this is a dumb question, and I know it's not lore related, but....

Is Mount "Rokkon" a deliberate play on words? Is it attempting to invoke Mount "Rock ON!"?

I apologize if this is decoupling the thread from it's purpose, I simply didn't see any better place to ask it.

Originally Posted by Kesey

Yoshi-p's comment that 6.4 will have different meaning/understanding after 6.5 kinda points to this idea that Golbez isn't exactly what we think he is.

Last time Yoshi-p spoke like this was about 5.2 and 5.3, where information we learned in 5.3 (that Elidibus was a primal and still alive as the heart of Zodiark) changed the meaning of something from 5.2 (being that Venat was specifically used to create the heart of Hydealyn) which then had major implications later in the story (Venat's role in Endwalker, past and present).

So we are going to be handed a crucial piece of lore pertaining to Golbez and his throne, but won't really understand the consequences of it until later in the story.

That's a very intriguing proposition, I cannot lie. Could we receive a revelation that will change what we think we know about the nature Voidsent fundamentally? Most of that lore was established in ARR and Heavensward eras, so now would be an ideal time to launch a bomb into our midst I'd wager. I'm hungering like Y'shtola right now. Give me that juicy knowledge, Square!

So I checked out the 6.4 site today for fun and I saw something. There is a tagline now below the page heading "New Story" that I don't think was there before: In Shadow Looms the Usurper's Seat

Forgive me if this is old news and I am just blind. lol

But, yeah, so I guess that title ties in to the Japanese title of the patch being "The Throne's Criminal". Usurpers are people who criminally take a throne. Which either hints that Golbez isn't the original occupant of said throne, or that he's going to be usurped. I'm guessing the former, though it might be both.

As for what the throne is, then, (b/c this all implies to me that there was a "throne" prior to Golbez taking it) maybe its just him having repurposed the Watcher's "palace" on the 13th's moon, having killed that shard's watcher. (Or at least destroyed or absorbed him, cus I'm not sure they're technically alive enough to die?) Or maybe the throne in question is referring to Zodiark's role in things, and just saying that Golbez has set up shop in the Cradle of Darkness, "usurping" his rightful place?

Also, how likely is it that Golbez has eaten the piece of Zodiark that used to be on this shard, you think?

Or perhaps that bit of Zodiark is what the ascians screwed up with on the 13th. The 13th was their first try at their plans. What if, before they came up with the rejoining of worlds plan, they tried to just go straight to unsealing the part of zodiark on the shard and the piece got absorbed by the lifestream or dispersed/destroyed and that was what ultimately resulted in making a "useless void" of the 13th.