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    Hopebot's Avatar
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    Hopebot Sourcream
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    Machinist Lv 100

    Frontline, joke of a PvP mode (3v3)

    Who in their right mind thought 3v3 was a good idea. Your team can be dominating until the very last seconds, only to be focused by both teams to the point its literally impossible to get out of spawn, then watch one of those two teams ignore the other and let them get all of the points behind the other two.

    There's a reason why in sports and pretty much any other competition, its two teams against each other, (unless the multiple teams have nothing to do with each other like races with multiple lanes) Because strength in numbers matters insanely.

    They should just get rid of a third team for frontline.
    This also is just another way of not keeping things too competitive and making sure everyone doesn't feel like they lost too much because oh, we can't do anything because both of the teams are hard focusing us.

    Which has the opposite effect, causing the people who get focused to become extremely annoyed and agitated.

    Man. Can't even do these crappy daily frontlines without it feeling like a waste.
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    Kathleen Nadinea
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    If they did you'd just complain about how the other team is completely and utterly dominating yours the entire match. lol
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    A'zalie Nitsah
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    That's the whole point of having 3 teams. Avoid unilateral victory. Frontlines is not about being the best at pvp, it's about having a strategy depending of how good your team is. And if a team is clearly better, having the other two team up for a time is the best way to try to win. That's why (nearly) every pre-wow pvp oriented mmo had a three faction system. Most people don't seem to understand that, seeing how people don't even look at their map for node spawns.

    That said, in frontline, it often end with people fighting for the second place. So I don't really see where that complain come from.
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    Sou R'bheits
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    That's the whole point of having 3 teams. Avoid unilateral victory. Frontlines is not about being the best at pvp, it's about having a strategy depending of how good your team is. And if a team is clearly better, having the other two team up for a time is the best way to try to win. That's why (nearly) every pre-wow pvp oriented mmo had a three faction system. Most people don't seem to understand that, seeing how people don't even look at their map for node spawns.

    That said, in frontline, it often end with people fighting for the second place. So I don't really see where that complain come from.
    This man really just said FR is about strategy, can I have a :joy: emoji please? It's just a meatgrinder, and whoever has the numbers and more healers takes the objective 99% of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickledpinkpeppers View Post
    This man really just said FR is about strategy, can I have a :joy: emoji please? It's just a meatgrinder, and whoever has the numbers and more healers takes the objective 99% of the time.
    I think you mean the most DRKs and DRGs.
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    Legendairy Products
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    Exodus
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pickledpinkpeppers View Post
    This man really just said FR is about strategy, can I have a :joy: emoji please? It's just a meatgrinder, and whoever has the numbers and more healers takes the objective 99% of the time.
    An actual coordinated group can win games more than an uncoordinated group. Sure having the meta jobs for FL gives you an edge, but if they are just running around doing whatever you aren't going to win vs someone actually playing objectives.
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    3v3 was a good idea in FL for the same reason it was a good idea in planetside and other large scale combat games. 3rd party fights keeps one side from just completely dominating.
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    I don't want to be that guy, but Frontlines are less of a 3v3 and more of a 1v1v1.
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astralrisk View Post
    I don't want to be that guy, but Frontlines are less of a 3v3 and more of a 1v1v1.
    Thanks for being that guy nevertheless, the thread title made me feel kinda ocd-ish for that express reason.
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    As much as the 3-sided gameplay can be jarring, I think the bigger issues is the massive team sizes and insane damage reductions which massively lower the impact what solo player can do.

    They should have made the games smaller and shorter, which would also let them remove the stupid durability changes. Now it's just mostly zerg fest where people come semi-afk for their exp.
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