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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    I think the bar set for mentors is a touch high actually. Or at least, the perception of those like the OP. Mentors aren't experts in everything. Keep in mind, it isn't like mentors get to choose what dungeon/trial/etc they get in roulette.

    Now, if a mentor says "follow me" and puts the symbol over their own heads and leads the lemmings off a cliff, maybe it is a different story.
    I absolutely agree with you. A mentor is there to help when they can and if they can. They are not all knowing, elite players. This expectation some of the community has for mentors should be reserved for only the top few percent of players.

    Ideally we should only have high expectations of ourselves
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  2. #32
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    I'm honestly curious to know what happened to birth this thread in the first place.
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  3. #33
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    The point of mentors is to share experience. Everyone's experience is different and not necessarily all-encompassing. This works really well because when one mentor doesn't know about something, another one that does is usually around. You aren't necessarily meant to rely on just one person to know everything.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Player Shinkuno's Avatar
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    Replace the crown icon with something more non-prestigous and watch the amount of "mentors" drop to single digit percentage
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    Some people have a complete misunderstanding of what the mentor role is. As others said, expecting a mentor to know every single mechanic of every single fight, that can come up on the roulette, is completely unreasonable. Square's mentor expectations:

    Provide gameplay advice for new adventurers and other players.
    Be an exemplar for player etiquette.
    Invite new adventurers to the Novice Network, and answer their queries in the chat channel.

    That's it. Stop expecting mentors to be a walking encyclopedia of all content. Now, if you want to complain about mentors who have a bad attitude, that's a different complaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    That's it. Stop expecting mentors to be a walking encyclopedia of all content. Now, if you want to complain about mentors who have a bad attitude, that's a different complaint.
    If you queue for the mentor roulette, you should make sure you know all the fights you're likely to get shoved into. Yes, that includes extremes. This is not an unreasonable expectation.
    Frankly, I don't think people should even be allowed to become a PvE mentor if they haven't cleared all content in the game, excepting perhaps Ultimates since that would be an unreasonable expectation.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 03-31-2023 at 04:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    If you queue for the mentor roulette, you should make sure you know all the fights you're likely to get shoved into. Yes, that includes extremes. This is not an unreasonable expectation.
    Frankly, I don't think people should even be allowed to become a PvE mentor if they haven't cleared all content in the game, excepting perhaps Ultimates since that would be an unreasonable expectation.
    That's bordering on 200+ instances that increases every Patch/expansion. It's absolutely unreasonable to memorize all of that and ludicrous to expect that from anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    If you queue for the mentor roulette, you should make sure you know all the fights you're likely to get shoved into. Yes, that includes extremes. This is not an unreasonable expectation.
    Frankly, I don't think people should even be allowed to become a PvE mentor if they haven't cleared all content in the game, excepting perhaps Ultimates since that would be an unreasonable expectation.
    Backpack,backpack
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    I’d like for mentors knowledge to also encapsulate savage and ultimate content. As a sprout when I asked about it in novice network I was blatantly ignored. Which is still a wee bit of a sore spot even after I’ve cleared a fair amount of savage and one ultimate as of today. I had to figure it out myself.
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