My impression of English Forum

[NekoMataMata]

Reddit is a ceasepool with that too. I've had completely harmless posts downvoted into oblivion. Which begs the question if people just downvote to troll, witchhunt, or bots are used to do it. I don't really know. But for that reason, I can't ever support a downvote that filters posts out.

It's a bit of everything. Some people troll on their own, and there are plenty of bots downvoting people in the pinned questions thread on reddit.

Witchhunting is done by everyone now days though. I feel like we're all a part of it. Your friend posts a link to their comment/post in a friendly discord and suddenly you have a handful of upvotes in support and downvotes else where(and we know how that snowballs since a lot of people don't read and mindlessly upvote/downvote). If anything I'd say discord is the real problem. Any time large groups of people are allowed to congregate in a single location most of them tend to end up being absolutely uncivilized and they sit there enabling each other's poor behavior.

[Ath192]

My theory,

Reddit has an upvote downvote system that silences dissent. Discord communities and twitch lobbies ban people who don't fit in. The forums are the only place that allows all posts to get equal representation. Therefore, they get the people that don't get attention for their hot takes elsewhere.

To be clear, I think reddit's visibility formula is disastrous for society in ways we do not yet understand. But it has caused official forums like these to get much worse.

Basically. Everyone here has a hot take. Most of these posts would be downvoted into oblivion elsewhere.

I don't know that places that allow majorities to suppress minorities is better. Reddit is a huge echo chamber because of this. You could have someone with a very keen or truthful observation get downvoted just because it doesn't fit the narrative the thread is going for. This in turn causes negativity, hate, and depression in a person who was attempting to be rational.

It's true the forums have their downsides but at least it leaves it up to people to determine what information is worth interacting with instead of systematically eradicating voices.

[Ath192]

Just to be clear, I was not supporting Reddit or implying that it is better. What I was saying is that these kinds of sites have caused problems that extend beyond that particular site. In other words, Reddit is so bad it causes problems even outside of Reddit itself. There is a large sociological impact.

I grew up in TES 3 online forums. The official forums and php third party forums from this era had virtually zero problems. Occasionally a troll had to be banned, but the general community was full of thoughtful people that were interested in genuine discussion.

Now to be fair, another element that had changed is the internet has gotten increasingly younger.

Make sense. The FFXIV reddit is downright insane. They are unwilling to hear or accept anything that they don't like. I will never forget this post from a while back where someone merely pointed out Viera's have human anatomy when they were discussing Viera's posture.

[Clover_Blake]

I feel the same, OP. I don't visit the forums much because the vast majority of topics are either trolls or people complaining about every minute thing. A bit disheartening.

For the record, there are many of us who truly love this game and appreciate the devs' work! We're just not as active here ;;

Edit: I don't visit reddit either, so I have no idea of how the situation is over there.

[Kranel_San]

Greetings, everyone.
Snip. Yes, character limits! Yes, I'm lazy to go around the character limit. Why am I writing here? This is not what the Person I'm quoting has said! Damn it, this is consuming more effort than going around the character limit.

I know people may easily misunderstand, but game forums are always like this. (Intentionally by design or Unintentionally)
You see, players who're satisfied with a game are... well.. satisfied. They're enjoying playing the game as we speak. Meanwhile, some players who're not satisfied are going to look somewhere to vent, rant, or give feedback about the game they're playing. A player who's enjoying criterion dungeon for example is less likely to open the forum or Reddit and write positive feedback about it, while another player who's disappointed by it is more likely to write negative feedback. That's how gaming forums work most of the time. It doesn't mean there won't be a positive feedback around, but it's more of negativity in comparison to positivity

[Knot_D]

Honestly, I would love the forum sanctions to be tied in with in-game sanctions. Banned on here? Should be banned in-game too, frankly.

Might actually help simmer down some folk.

I heard that's what happened to Skiros's alts here who gets banned both forum and in-game

[SassyAssassin]

So…If I went to the JP forums…they complain… but they can come here acting all condescending and it’s all good?

[Absimiliard]

[NiceNox]

While the skepticism toward my post/thread is not unwarranted, I would like to ensure that this is my genuine expression and impression of the English forum. As I am currently working in the academic and writing field, I do understand and feel quite emotionally when I see my or others' works being bent or distorted into something that I or they didn't do or intend to imply, especially when it comes to art such as game designing and story writing. As I stated, I love reading criticism, especially from the English speakers, I genuinely love to see and understand their views and their interpretation of things and stuff, after all, it's my experience in America that inspired me to pursue my career in the academic field. I would like to apologize to you and miss SassyAssassin if my message feels like a bait or if my message does sound condescending.