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    Quote Originally Posted by PintyMcEars View Post
    Somehow I don't believe you
    I really wish I cared you dont believe me and my sexuality, but thank you for your input
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    I thought LGBTQA+ wants to be regard and accepted as normal people.

    Normal people don't feel the need to be represented, so I guess this group of people only want special treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    No. I just wanna play FFXIV, i am not interested in what sexuality every NPC has and i do not want it to get stuffed in my Face at every occasion. Thank you.
    Yet there are many “in your face” heterosexual couples in the games. LGBTQ+ people exist so why not. It should be a non issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Yet there are many “in your face” heterosexual couples in the games. LGBTQ+ people exist so why not. It should be a non issue.
    Actually it is an issue because its forced in the story and in the game for no reason at all but for the sake of having them so they can say "yeah look guys we're lgtbq friendly !" , that is where people should draw the line
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Actually it is an issue because its forced in the story and in the game for no reason at all but for the sake of having them so they can say "yeah look guys we're lgtbq friendly !" , that is where people should draw the line
    Doesn’t mean it’s forced. Maybe they really wanted such characters. There’s no reason to not have a few LGBTQ+ characters. Some people seem to want to hide them forever. Sheesh! I guess ancient greeks were forced to depict homosexuality in their art. Creators should be free to put or not LGBTQ content in their games and it should be a non issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    I thought LGBTQA+ wants to be regard and accepted as normal people.

    Normal people don't feel the need to be represented, so I guess this group of people only want special treatment.
    Actually they are represented constantly. It looks more like some people want them to be represented exclusively. Also funny you call them “normal”. LGBTQ+ is part of life and their representation shouldn’t be controversial. That should be at the discretion of the creators of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Doesn’t mean it’s forced. Maybe they really wanted such characters. There’s no reason to not have a few LGBTQ+ characters. Some people seem to want to hide them forever. Sheesh! I guess ancient greeks were forced to depict homosexuality in their art.
    So they went from having barely any to multiple all of a sudden because they "wanted" it ? Big doubt there, especially considering where SE is from. Also pretty sure no one has anything agaisnt them being implemented, as long as its not put in people's faces, and also forced in. A la "MY HUSBAND LEFT ME IM A LONE MAN PLEASE GO AND GET HIM FOR ME I NEED MY HUSBAND" which is basically how its implemented right now in this game, it literally is pushed that they are lgbt instead of just leaving it alone, there is no need to go in detail and be like "yeah see guys they are lgtq !"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    They’re just checking boxes for the western market. Enjoy your tokenism
    Basically this tbh, its not genuine one bit.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 03-25-2023 at 12:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Doesn’t mean it’s forced. Maybe they really wanted such characters. There’s no reason to not have a few LGBTQ+ characters. Some people seem to want to hide them forever. Sheesh! I guess ancient greeks were forced to depict homosexuality in their art. Creators should be free to put or not LGBTQ content in their games and it should be a non issue.

    Actually they are represented constantly. It looks more like some people want them to be represented exclusively. Also funny you call them “normal”.
    They’re just checking boxes for the western market. Enjoy your tokenism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So they went from having barely any to multiple all of a sudden because they "wanted" it ? Big doubt there, especially considering where SE is from. Also pretty sure no one has anything agaisnt them being implemented, as long as its not put in people's faces, and also forced in. A la "MY HUSBAND LEFT ME IM A LONE MAN PLEASE GO AND GET HIM FOR ME I NEED MY HUSBAND" which is basically how its implemented right now in this game, it literally is pushed that they are lgbt instead of just leaving it alone, there is no need to go in detail and be like "yeah see guys they are lgtq !.
    Maybe they weren’t represented (or when there was representation, it was rather timid) because there was censorship and things are starting to change.

    I do agree that in some cases it is tokenism like in some of those uninspired and uninspiring fetch quests ( still, after all, why not?) but not always. Anyway, that’s not what I am talking about. It’s about the creative process and there should be freedom in that regard. You can have well fleshed out characters and a good story where the writer really wanted such characters, not just for the sake of having an LGBTQ+ character but because that’s how they imagined it. Depicting LGBTQ+ characters should not be controversial.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 03-25-2023 at 02:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Doesn’t mean it’s forced. Maybe they really wanted such characters. There’s no reason to not have a few LGBTQ+ characters. Some people seem to want to hide them forever. Sheesh! I guess ancient greeks were forced to depict homosexuality in their art. Creators should be free to put or not LGBTQ content in their games and it should be a non issue.
    Sure, but not at the cost for the sake of it. Too bad it's almost always poorly executed.

    Actually they are represented constantly.
    Did you just assume the gender and sexuality of characters on screen? I find it offensive. Maybe that sweet housewife identify as male and "he" happens to be homosexual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelasoriao View Post
    LGBT this, LGBT that... how about they focus on just writing a good story. Not score diversity points to appease the Twitter crowd??
    I’m LGBT, and I don’t like twitter. Can you not?
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