Now that FF16 will feature LGBT+ characters, can we get some rep in FF14 too?

[TheMightyMollusk]

Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out of it alive.

[TMW001]

IF we are ever gonna get more LGBT characters I'd rather they take their time and make them well made then just being gay is their trait the more you focus on the idea of a characters sexual orientation the less interesting they are prime example Shoreleve from Venture bros. or Gus and Wally from Mission Hill gay yes but not their selling point of being great characters.

[deston07]

There are quite a few Gay characters,
If you take the time to do side stories which add to main story.

(The Perfect Woman) Ijin Merchant Kugane X: 11.2 Y: 12.5
^ Is an Easy side quest to show one example.

There are far more same sex relationships than
story on its own shows in the first place.

Lore wise Female Meqo'te Rarely seek company of men,
and prefer company of other Female Meqo'te.
Some Tribes of Au Ra do not allow Women at all,
This is just Two easy examples, where lore infers.

marriage is not always proof many are forced by family, in lore and story.

FFXIV in general is suggestive rather than up front when it comes to sexuality in the first place.
FFXIV is struggling to maintain their ESRB rating of (T) Teen, Already.
No way they add characters that are blatantly open about sexuality.

The ESRB rating for Final Fantasy 16 has confirmed that the game will be rated M for Mature (Edit: Added)

[TitanMenII]

There are quite a few Gay characters,
If you take the time to do side stories which add to main story.

(The Perfect Woman) Ijin Merchant Kugane X: 11.2 Y: 12.5
^ Is an Easy side quest to show one example.

There are far more same sex relationships than
story on its own shows in the first place.

Lore wise Female Meqo'te Rarely seek company of men,
and prefer company of other Female Meqo'te.
Some Tribes of Au Ra do not allow Women at all,
This is just Two easy examples, where lore infers.

marriage is not always proof many are forced by family, in lore and story.

FFXIV in general is suggestive rather than up front when it comes to sexuality in the first place.
FFXIV is struggling to maintain their ESRB rating of (T) Teen, Already.
No way they add characters that are blatantly open about sexuality.

The ESRB rating for Final Fantasy 16 has confirmed that the game will be rated M for Mature (Edit: Added)

But why are LGBT+ characters always treated as side characters, and not the mains?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

But why are LGBT+ characters always treated as side characters, and not the mains?

Why do they Need to be mains?
Does Final Fantasy need a game centered around LGBT? Because thats the only reason to make an LGBT Character a Main Character.

If the character HAPPENS to be Gay or such while being a Good character. Cool.
But if being LGBT is the entire focus of their character, then leave them out. It serves no purpose other then to get attention. Which, a videogame should get attention for BEING a Good Game with Good Characters. Or a Movie or a book should get attention for BEING a Good Movie or Book with Good Characters.
Not because it has an LGBT Character, or because of Representation.

[Seraphor]

If the character HAPPENS to be Gay or such while being a Good character. Cool.

There is no winning with this btw.
If you write any kind of romantic arc to their character to actually 'show' their sexuality, it's labelled as too "in your face" and "centred around their sexuality"
If you just 'mention it' without showing it, then it's tokenism or "this character didn't need to be gay, it's unnecessary"
Meanwhile if you don't mention it overtly, it's pandering or queerbaiting, like Dumbledore.

Ultimately there is never a right way to write a LGBT+ character, because if it isn't deemed offensive stereotype by the LGBT+ community, then the self proclaimed majority will always find fault with it.
Minorities are not allowed to be centre stage, it upsets the heteronormatives. We are reminded that queer is not "the norm" and therefore has to be relegated to sidekicks.
It's not allowed to not be an issue, if a queer character exists, there is some kind of problem somewhere, and it is only tolerable if it's easy enough to ignore.

[UkcsAlias]

There is no winning with this btw.

And this is caused by themselve though.

In movies characters were usualy just chosen because they suit their role. Its skill that decided who would take a certain position. Skin and sexual preference were irrelevant for the movies. A gay person does often still show certain things that identify that, but that is a natural way of it being shown.

These days however, movies are often forcing this as a political statement. Pushing politics into something that should be enjoyable is often a bad idea. Stereotyping on that however is a diffirent story (if someone needs to act italian, there are simple tricks to do so, even if the actor is american), its also the reason why bad guys often originate from certain countries, as that country can be used to enforce that. It adds to the story.

But noone can explain me why its realy needed to make a certain character black, gay or whatever when the original film/books/game had good reasons not to do so. It removes immersion for political reasons which is extremely bad. Its made worse by those communities, because they shout about their achievement, making something that might not have been designed to be political, still something that is used like that.

They made it that bad, people just want a basic and simple situation, which means the original standard that was used in movies for a long time, is the standard again. That its a white male... thats just how it is. But i can also already tell that if you would put Samuel L Jackson in a movie, regardless of role people like it, because again: its the actor thats doing the good job. David hasselhoff, no diffirence. Most of the actors in recent movies do their job horribly, and thats why people get sick of it.

[Aword3213]

Ultimately there is never a right way to write a LGBT+ character

To think there's not even a single LGBT writer can create a story of note to represent LGBT. it must be so HARD to get it right.

But we are special. We make demands. And you will cater to us.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

https://twitter.com/RinoTheBouncer/s...49883418689536

#FinalFantasy XVI Updates

- Features LGBT+ characters
- The game is localized in Arabic
- May affect its release in the region
- Square Enix won’t censor LGBT+ content in the Middle East or any region

So will FF14 also see LGBT+ characters in the next expansion? There's no excuse left for not having any major LGBT+ characters in the MSQ now that Square Enix has signaled it's willing to not censor any content in the Middle East.

I don't see why not.

If FF16 can do it then no reason to deny it in FF14 too.

LGBT this, LGBT that... how about they focus on just writing a good story. Not score diversity points to appease the Twitter crowd??

Something tells me that you don't seem to have any issue with any of the Hetero relationships in the game.

[Raoabolic]

Something tells me that you don't seem to have any issue with any of the Hetero relationships in the game.

Do you? lol