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    I think representation is good, them being LGBT wouldn't need to be a big thing, just a reference so i don't understand why people are opposed to it. Its just representation.
    But i do get the concern that it would be a tick box exercize. The thing is, representation done right isnt a massive lazer focus on it, but rather a mention in passing. it doesnt need to be a big thing for the represntation to be present, but it does need to be done in a right way.
    There already is some reference and rep in the game, Im pretty sure theres a gay couple in ARR who were involved in the wander's palace questline and a handful of opaque references to individual preferance.
    Ultimately if there were to be any, it need to be done right. Which i think SQEX would do.


    As for "Why does it need to be a thing?"

    Representation is important because it shows that people who are not Heterosexual / white do exist and are valid.
    Good representation within a narritive will enhance the narritive. But the biggest gain is for young LGBT people. For them the representation matters because it lends to idea that "they" are normal. That they are valid and that they have a place.
    Young LGBT people struggle a lot with "fitting" in and being themselves. Represenaaion can go a long way to help with this. IF and only IF it is done right. And seeing it in the fandoms they like, the worlds they enjoy, gives it impact. It never needs to be front and center, but inclusion of characters that are LGBT, have disabilities or are from a minority group dos have impact. But again, it has to be done right, and can't be a tickbox exercize.

    An example of it done right is Thancred and Y'shtola. Both have in world disabilities that are actively mentioned but do not form a massive focus - y'shtolas Bindness vs Thancreds inability to manipulate aether. There is an argument to be made that Y'shtolas way of seeing means she isnt quite blind representation - but i think its serves the same function as a blind person using Braille, a stick or a guide dog. Ultimtely, its a confirmed disabiity that has support mechisims to mitigate and shows that y'shtola and Thancred both provide a massive contribution, the disability isnt sidelined, but nor is it who they are. Yoshtola isnt the "blind Scion" she is the scion who happens to blind.
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    lol these thread tags
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    In my honest opinion, the ability to wear certain clothing that already compliments woman while being a man is already hugely LGBT in its own right.
    No need to overdo it cuss it would be rather harsh to give special benefits to people simply cuss they aren't straight
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    Angry boi is angry

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    EDIT: I give up, I'd say this user is a bot reading their script but I had more fruitful conversations with ChatGPT.
    Sounds more to me that you ran out of argument so you resort to thinking you will have more fruitful discussions with an AI bot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Angry boi is angry



    Sounds more to me that you ran out of argument so you resort to thinking you will have more fruitful discussions with an AI bot.
    I dunno, AI bots can actually read these days.

    But stay mad and live in your imaginary world where I all called you bigots and cared about misgendering. You apparently need fake opponents you invented all so much.

    EDIT: Incredible retort bravo! Sometimes I forget I might be interacting with actual 15 years olds.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 04-06-2023 at 03:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    I dunno, AI bots can actually read these days.

    But stay mad and live in your imaginary world where I all called you bigots and cared about misgendering. You apparently need fake opponents you invented all so much.

    EDIT: Incredible retort bravo! Sometimes I forget I might be interacting with actual 15 years olds.
    Now I'm imaging a grown adult having keyboard fights with 15 year olds. Yep, that looks about as ridiculous as it sounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Now I'm imaging a grown adult having keyboard fights with 15 year olds. Yep, that looks about as ridiculous as it sounds.


    MORTAL KOMBAT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    But stay mad and live in my imaginary world where I all called you bigots and cared about misgendering.
    There, FIFY!
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    Last edited by Sotaris; 04-06-2023 at 03:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    There, FIFY!
    I know you tried very hard to be clever but the fixed sentence doesn't even make much sense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post


    MORTAL KOMBAT!


    I'm not being serious but the angry boi seems to be taking this very seriously. Please keep going, I need some laughs
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    Last edited by Sotaris; 04-06-2023 at 04:17 AM.

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